Neighbours from Hell

itch_for_a_glitch

OP, you bought a local authority flat (on the cheap) and expected to retire to peace and quiet ? Really ? I like your optimism.
You couldnt give me a flat, much less a council flat.

*max*

May I just point out, all things being equal...complete tw4ts can have disabled/SN children too, believe it or not.

Having a special needs kid doesn't suddenly turn you into a lovely, upstanding citizen who's going to care about their neighbours if you were a thug to being with. Just putting it out there.

the_pink_panther_2

*max* wrote: »

May I just point out, all things being equal...complete tw4ts can have disabled/SN children too, believe it or not.

Having a special needs kid doesn't suddenly turn you into a lovely, upstanding citizen who's going to care about their neighbours if you were a thug to being with. Just putting it out there.

True. But the single detail given to suggest that this family is 'not nice' is that their friend, while drunk, swore at OP. Unacceptable in my opinion under any circumstances, but we only have OP's word that in her opinion she was polite in asking for quite. Taken at face value, ok, but in my opinion, OP is inevitably going to be biased regarding this and has already demonstrated a lack of judgement in terms of empathy, lack of liking of the family so unclear as to whether or not she herself was as well mannered as she claims, or even had intended. Sorry OP if your attitude was exactly as described, but every story has two sides and the other family involved are not here to comment.

aliasojo

*max* wrote: »

May I just point out, all things being equal...complete tw4ts can have disabled/SN children too, believe it or not.

Having a special needs kid doesn't suddenly turn you into a lovely, upstanding citizen who's going to care about their neighbours if you were a thug to being with. Just putting it out there.

I agree.

I don't actually think the parents are particularly nice tbh.

Disabled kids don't usually mix well with parties and drunk people.

Clearly I don't have wide reaching experience of everyone in society but ALL (without exception) the families I know who have a disabled kid AND the residential center I've had interaction with, all have to curtail their behaviour and way of life to work round the child.

Drunks and parties were just not on the cards.

And if I had a drunk friend who swore at my neighbour like that, I'd be going round the next day to apologise for their behaviour.

Yes the OP has tolerance issues but I honestly don't believe this family are are 'poor' as has been made out on this thread.

(Poor as in 'poor them' and not monetary poor, I mean.)

paulineb_2

shegirl wrote: »

Hang on a minute...the neighbours drunk FRIEND who on ONE occasion told the opportunity to eff off makes them fair game to get them out any way she can?Seriously!!!!

As for just mentioning it as loud noises,won't make a difference.Once it's known it's a disabled child it will be explained to the op,they'll talk to the parents.They will NOT be booted out.

To lie and say it sounds like music to try and get them kicked out is disgusting.That would thankfully backfire and anybody who thinks that is a good idea needs to take a long hard look at themselves.

This country is bloody shameful at times.

Yes it is, but that goes both ways

I'll be interested to see how their party goes on Saturday night

If a child has such severe disabilities, supports should be put in place, primarily to help the family

I wonder what the response would have been had the OP posted, Im retired and my new neighbours were asked to turn the volume down, the mate told me to eff off and he got so drunk he had to be helped off the floor and Im terrified

I think the answers would have been dramatically different.

The OP has been honest and shes received a lot of comments on here (Im not talking about your post), that I think went over the top

None of my neighbours around here have kids with disabilities of any kind but even if they did, it still wouldnt take away from the fact that they are essentially anti social.

At the very least someone needs to have a quiet word with the mum and make it clear the friends behaviour wasnt acceptable.

shegirl

paulineb wrote: »

Yes it is, but that goes both ways

I'll be interested to see how their party goes on Saturday night

If a child has such severe disabilities, supports should be put in place, primarily to help the family

I wonder what the response would have been had the OP posted, Im retired and my new neighbours were asked to turn the volume down, the mate told me to eff off and he got so drunk he had to be helped off the floor and Im terrified

I think the answers would have been dramatically different.

The OP has been honest and shes received a lot of comments on here (Im not talking about your post), that I think went over the top

None of my neighbours around here have kids with disabilities of any kind but even if they did, it still wouldnt take away from the fact that they are essentially anti social.

At the very least someone needs to have a quiet word with the mum and make it clear the friends behaviour wasnt acceptable.

Thing is,it was only one incident.Most people wouldn't let that give them a constant hate of the family and see it as a making them 'fair game' to find any reason on earth to get kicked out.It was their second night there,a drunk friend made a mistake,they may not have known how to handle it.If that had been regular I'd have had a really low opinion of them...but a one off from an overly drunk friend?One who wouldn't have been amused by being shouted at over a balcony by someone who was stood watching them (must've shouted if the music was that loud or neither would've been heard,must've been watching or wouldn't be seeing the drunken behaviour on the balcony) and it would've made the new tenants uncomfortable too-nobody likes being shouted at or stared at either!

If I was the op,who people appear to have missed posted that she is not actually old,I would brush that off and see how things go.

As for supports should be in place to help the family,yeah they should and they may be- none of us know!There are also !!!! ups which I'm all too aware of

Nicki

I say again I think some of the posters on here think the UK is a lot better place to live for the disabled than it really is.

There is barely any support for families of disabled children however severe. Certainly not the regular and frequent respite for all that some seem to think is there just for the asking!

For 12 years we got 2 weeks daytime activities in the summer holidays and nothing else. Ever. Whatever the circumstances at home. This year we entered major crisis territory and after a very lengthy wait and a further lengthy assessment process we were offered a choice of either 3-4 overnight respite stays per year or around 20 days daytime respite per year. Which will be reviewed and could be taken away again.

Coolcait. I didn't report any of the posts and would be hard pushed to tell you exactly which ones went but my perception looking at the first page is that they were the ones which supported the theory that the family deserved to be evicted due to the noise from their child or attributed blame to the family for not managing their child better.

shegirl

Nicki wrote: »

I say again I think some of the posters on here think the UK is a lot better place to live for the disabled than it really is.

There is barely any support for families of disabled children however severe. Certainly not the regular and frequent respite for all that some seem to think is there just for the asking!

For 12 years we got 2 weeks daytime activities in the summer holidays and nothing else. Ever. Whatever the circumstances at home. This year we entered major crisis territory and after a very lengthy wait and a further lengthy assessment process we were offered a choice of either 3-4 overnight respite stays per year or around 20 days daytime respite per year. Which will be reviewed and could be taken away again.

Coolcait. I didn't report any of the posts and would be hard pushed to tell you exactly which ones went but my perception looking at the first page is that they were the ones which supported huge theory that the family deserved to be evicted due to the noise from their child or attributed blame to the family for not managing their child better.

Know how you feel hun,it's not all as simple as 'there' s support available' everyone brandishes around!Infact,it seems their is often more support available for those with less complex and severe disabilities.

I had one night a week respite with ds at a respite centre for 4/5 years,with two day time sessions 10-4 added on in school holidays.A !!!! up lead to me losing that last year,they know we've been at crisis point over and over since,they know ds is 2-1 at school,they know everything,yet we still have nothing and what they did (wrongly) try to set up for this summer (took them since october) has once again screwed up.Ds is under a wrap around package,has specialist school placement,they state they need to do all these things to enable his care and for him to live at home,they repeatedly state their concern for my safety and well-being with no help and do they help?do they ****

Those who think it's all chunky dory with support should read this.. https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/4371937

Vicky123

At what point did we decide this was all about one drunken comment from the friend? When did we drop all the disgraceful language and comments from the original post? It never ceases to amaze me how people twist things, cherry pick to defend the indefensible. If the OP feels they have been hard done by on this thread then I would like to know how she feels trying to get a disabled child evicted from their home should be viewed, lets not forget that was the main thrust of the thread, disabled child making animal noises that disturbs her peace, the rest of it mentioned one disturbed sleep and one run in with a friend. Someone who feels strongly enough to complain to the authorities and try to gather some kind of neighbourhood posse to agree this disability is antisocial behavior shouldn't be looking to enlist complete strangers to justify it.

Treevo

Vicky123 wrote: »

At what point did we decide this was all about one drunken comment from the friend? When did we drop all the disgraceful language and comments from the original post? It never ceases to amaze me how people twist things, cherry pick to defend the indefensible. If the OP feels they have been hard done by on this thread then I would like to know how she feels trying to get a disabled child evicted from their home should be viewed, lets not forget that was the main thrust of the thread, disabled child making animal noises that disturbs her peace, the rest of it mentioned one disturbed sleep and one run in with a friend. Someone who feels strongly enough to complain to the authorities and try to gather some kind of neighbourhood posse to agree this disability is antisocial behavior shouldn't be looking to enlist complete strangers to justify it.

She's unable to stay in her own home so it's hardly the one night that you're claiming. You're doing the exact same thing that you're accusing others of doing!