Neighbours from Hell

shegirl

CC-Warrior wrote: »

I'm not sure unless the contract specifically stipulates this. Mine doesn't mention anything about disability.

Just like it wouldn't mention babies crying or children playing

supersaver2

Have the posts that called the op a horrible person etc been deleted as well, there were some quite nasty posts that i read earlier which seemed to be against forum rules.

princessdon

shegirl wrote: »

Just like it wouldn't mention babies crying or children playing

That's kind of my feeling that OP isn't used to children full stop, my none disabled children would drive her mad too. They are just children

But I do think the noises frighten her, I genuinely believe she is scared and that the friend and abuse didn't help.

Doesn't mean there isn't a solution or way to live over/under each other.

Summer holidays particularly good weather ones are never an ideal time to mix children with peace and quiet neighbours whatever difficulties they have. My hope is that from Sept it settles down

alyth

poet123 wrote: »

I didn't read any of your posts that were abusive per se (there may have been some after I left the thread) but some/all of your posts lacked empathy and implied that the child needed control rather than you understanding that the child was disabled.

I do remember what I posted, I finished work at 10pm and I do apologise if anyone found my posts offensive - but my understanding, as I say this as a child-free person, is that routine and control to a certain degree is required with any child, even more so if a child is disabled and thus could get upset if something changes - I bear that purely on the fact that I've read enough posts on here with regards to children who have ADHD and for whom routine is hugely important. I'm seeing a friend tomorrow whose child has severe learning disabilities and I'm hugely sensitive to the fact that I don't want to disrupt his routine nor add to his stress when I say goodbye to him.

poet123

alyth wrote: »

I do remember what I posted, I finished work at 10pm and I do apologise if anyone found my posts offensive - but my understanding, as I say this as a child-free person, is that routine and control to a certain degree is required with any child, even more so if a child is disabled and thus could get upset if something changes - I bear that purely on the fact that I've read enough posts on here with regards to children who have ADHD and for whom routine is hugely important. I'm seeing a friend tomorrow whose child has severe learning disabilities and I'm hugely sensitive to the fact that I don't want to disrupt his routine nor add to his stress when I say goodbye to him.

With respect, routine and control are very different.

alyth

poet123 wrote: »

With respect, routine and control are very different.

I totally understand that - it would appear to me from the brief understanding that I have of the situation is that a family have been placed in a one bedroomed flat where their requirements clearly merit more than that - and the the OP is used to her own quietness and routine, something which absolutely resonates with me. Again I do apologise if I upset anyone by my comments.

mentaljessie

I do sympathise but as I've come to conclude living in such a restricted environment it is a matter of give and take. My downstairs neighbours regularly had severely learning disabled grandchild over to stay. Of which myself and partner being registered LD nurses were tolerant of. This was until neighbours conversed with my grandmother on a bus do D and D have carpet in their bedroom, as I keep hearing wailing. This was not being myself wailing, but my dementing cat, the one that keeps their shed mouse free. She's a formidable hunter.

OH was angry knocked on the neighbours door and stated we have an elderly cat, we appreciate you have xxxxx to stay, they regularly wake us up at 3am from the noise and vibrations we hear through the walls (causation being her behaviours which challenge and vibrating walls from headbutts) in future could you discuss this issue with us not D's grandmother.

Neighbours then accussed us as discriminating against the disabled, subsequently 6 months later grandchild has become to difficult for them to manage for the weekend.

eskimo26

You shot yourself in the foot mentioning the disability unnecessarily.

All you need to do is mention loud noises, keep reporting it as loud noise. You can say it sounds like an animal or music or whatever if they push you.

While i agree with sentiments of other posters they can at least be nice neighbours, being told to 'f*ck off makes it fair game to get them out any way you can.

Report any more abuse too, keeping a diary is normally done in this situation.

shegirl

eskimo26 wrote: »

You shot yourself in the foot mentioning the disability unnecessarily.

All you need to do is mention loud noises, keep reporting it as loud noise. You can say it sounds like an animal or music or whatever if they push you.

While i agree with sentiments of other posters they can at least be nice neighbours, being told to 'f*ck off makes it fair game to get them out any way you can.

Report any more abuse too, keeping a diary is normally done in this situation.

Hang on a minute...the neighbours drunk FRIEND who on ONE occasion told the op to eff off makes them fair game to get them out any way she can?Seriously!!!!

As for just mentioning it as loud noises,won't make a difference.Once it's known it's a disabled child it will be explained to the op,they'll talk to the parents.They will NOT be booted out.

To lie and say it sounds like music to try and get them kicked out is disgusting.That would thankfully backfire and anybody who thinks that is a good idea needs to take a long hard look at themselves.

This country is bloody shameful at times.

coolcait

Nicki wrote: »

... the thread probably looks a bit disjointed this morning as lots of stuff posted in support of the OP's stance was deleted

That might need a bit of clarification - what do you mean by "the OP's stance".

i have huge sympathy for someone who is suffering as a result of noise made by neighbours.

I appreciate that in this situation the issue becomes very, very blurred because of the source of the noise.

However, sympathy/empathy for the child and his parents doesn't help you sleep. Earplugs, IME, don't work quite as well against suddent, sharp, piercing noises as they do against the more regular rhythms of snoring - however loud.

Snoring is irritating. A noise which scares you - like a scream - can leave you unable to get back to sleep. Even when you've realised that it's just the next door neighbour, and you know that he can't help it.

I didn't particularly agree with Alyth's posts. But I didn't find them any more 'removable' than the posts which lambasted the OP on a very personal level.