Speed Cameras

Herzlos

Strider590 wrote: »

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You have to admit it's !!!!!! that I have to do 40 down a particular big wide dual carriageway, but if I take a side road into the narrow country lanes i'm allowed do 60 when it clearly wouldn't be safe to do so.
One road I can think of is barely wider than my car........

But don't get me wrong, I don't think limits on rural roads should be changed. I think they need to stop messing with the perfectly reasonable speed limits and instead educate drivers as to what the NSL actually is, because I firmly believe that a disproportionate amount of accidents are caused by people overtaking drivers that do not know how to drive at a reasonable speed (ie 40 in an NSL).

I agree entirely, there's a new motorway stretch here, 3 lanes, 50 limit. Almost never any traffic on it (certainly not enough for 3 lanes to be in use). Yet it's not that far away from single lane roads with passing places with a national. There's no way that makes sense.


I'm horrified that so few people know what the national speed limit sign is, but then I know a few people who drive, but have never driven out of town (purely to the shops or taking kids to school) and have probably never driven past one.

GAZ237

Jamie_Carter wrote: »

No, I post very little that is correct, with my poor level of knowledge.

Fixed your post for you.

Jamie_Carter

GAZ237 wrote: »

Fixed your post for you.

The same could be said about you

Jamie_Carter

Strider590 wrote: »

The problem with "it is a limit, not a target" is that it becomes an excuse for incompetence. As does "it's not a race".....

They're both one line put downs used by people who don't have the facts, knowledge or intelligence to put up a reasonable argument. The idea being that there's no immediate/instant way to quickly answer those retorts (there is if you think ahead).

If it's a clear straight road on a nice sunny/dry day and the limit is 60, you should really being doing at least 55mph (50 actual), not tootling along at 42mph (38 actual) tutting at everyone who overtakes.

The stupid thing is, I find people driver faster in the wet/snow/frost, than when it's dry and sunny. Why? Because in adverse conditions they're forced to pay attention to the road and road signs.

You took my post in the wrong context. We were talking about narrow windy country lanes. You should drive according to the conditions.

smashingyour...

Jamie_Carter wrote: »

You took my post in the wrong context. We were talking about narrow windy country lanes. You should drive according to the conditions.

I thought the op was on a dual carriageway.

alastairq

If it's a clear straight road on a nice sunny/dry day and the limit is 60, you should really being doing at least 55mph (50 actual), not tootling along at 42mph (38 actual) tutting at everyone who overtakes.

I don't 'do' tutting.....all I'm thinking is, ''I'm going as fast as I can, dammit!'' :mad:

alastairq

interstellaflyer wrote: »

I wish they wouldn't use these signs on roads where it is not appropriate to do 60 mph. There's a rather bendy stretch of single track road near where I live, goes on for about 3 miles, it has NSL signs yet you would not want to drive much above 30 on it.

Aside from being evidence that speed limits are not simply randomly placed on a whim.........and it is 'nice' to note ....we all bitterly complain about the imposition of speed limits...[which are probably simply inconvenient for us??]

..don't we?

However, in my travels, sneaking about this country of ours, winding-up everybody, I suspect....I happened into Worcestershire quite by chance [must have been foggy?]...and I noted on that fair county's winding twisty back roads, many advisory speed limits posted.

Now these sorts of advisory limit are indeed most useful as a guideline to the less experienced/keen/knowledgeable drivers out there.

And..if one chooses to ignore the advisory speed signs, no harm is done, or trouble caused.

Unless, of course, one coq's it up?

Then one get 'done' big-time..possibly converting a 'careless' to a 'dangerous' offence..given the presence of the 'advisory'...


Very useful, however.....if a trifle heavy on additional street furniture?

Jamie_Carter

smashingyour... wrote: »

I thought the op was on a dual carriageway.

Get with it will you

Jamie_Carter

alastairq wrote: »

Aside from being evidence that speed limits are not simply randomly placed on a whim.........and it is 'nice' to note ....we all bitterly complain about the imposition of speed limits...[which are probably simply inconvenient for us??]

..don't we?

However, in my travels, sneaking about this country of ours, winding-up everybody, I suspect....I happened into Worcestershire quite by chance [must have been foggy?]...and I noted on that fair county's winding twisty back roads, many advisory speed limits posted.

Now these sorts of advisory limit are indeed most useful as a guideline to the less experienced/keen/knowledgeable drivers out there.

And..if one chooses to ignore the advisory speed signs, no harm is done, or trouble caused.

Unless, of course, one coq's it up?

Then one get 'done' big-time..possibly converting a 'careless' to a 'dangerous' offence..given the presence of the 'advisory'...


Very useful, however.....if a trifle heavy on additional street furniture?

You could still get done for dangerous driving, even when sticking to the speed limit, with or without advisories. You drive according to the conditions, not to the speed limit.

neilmcl

smashingyour... wrote: »

He lost 5mph, that's hardly slaming on.

Do you have to constantly argue the toss with everyone. The point is the op "quickly reduced my speed" because he was ignorant of the NSL. Sudden reduction of speed for no reason can be classed as driving without due car and attention.