MSE Pregnancy Club 26

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Labour vibes to those boldies still waiting xx

Big hugs to Angelmommy xxx


Hugs to those others that need them too xx


re: BF/FF - I say each to their own, we don't tell people off for being vegetarian so why should be for formula feeding I'm going to try it, if only because they have become mahoosive and have been leaking for ages! But if it doesn't work or I get too tired then we'll go to formula.


AFM - excellent day at the baby show, we got their for 9:30am so a very long day after the drive from Brizzle. Headed straight for the pushchair and bought the Silver Cr0ss Surf All Terrain for £480, included carry cot, liner, changing bag, colour pack....so a total of £820 soooo impressed with that and we won't have to keep moving the moses basket up and down the stairs as will use the carry cot downstairs now


Went for the m4xi-cosi pebble with the isofix base and got a good price on that for £275 including the new 2way base. It's not due to arrive until December when we can ask them for a duopack on the phone and they'll give us a further discount on the pearl.


We also bought reusable nappies, a sling, and reusable wipes. I think in total we've saved between £500-600, we even parked nearby in the street for free so saved on parking fees. I feel very MSE


Now we just need little miss to arrive *well hopefully after the car seat arrives*

BabaMoose

I'm thinking of BF sheerly for money saving reasons... I was FF but that was because of dairy/egg allergy so I couldn't have my mother's milk (she wasn't about to give it chocolate, I was DD4!)... I survived to tell the tale... but I'll only be FF if I fail at BF or for medical reasons I think. Won't be gutted if I end up going FF though (apart from the pennies).

vic3

mincepiemonster wrote: »

Vic3 glad to hear you had a fab time! Did you have lots of cake? With DD we had a kind-of baby shower (we wanted to catch up with our friends before life changed forever) and it took us days to eat all the cupcakes people bought! I'd secretly love another but only so I can have those cute pastel macaroons which weren't around a couple of years!

I had a huge cake with a blue bear on it and some beautiful cupcakes! Delicious

IHateDida

fluffysox wrote: »

Forceps delivery means my hips are very sore. Also bruised internally as well as a bit tender from episiotomy. All this would be manageable if the hour of pushing hadn't given me very bad piles. The combination means I cannot sit up. I struggle to walk. At times I cannot sit onto the toilet without crying. Swelling has made it difficult to wee (doesn't hurt to wee as you read it does) and I still cannot do the other. So I am forced to lie on my side. DH looking after baby. I have a few cuddles each day but that is it. Very upsetting but of all things I feel guilty about, bottle feeding is not one of them. My baby boy is thriving. Can't wait to get more mobile so I can start to enjoy him.

Sorry if too much detail for expectant mums. I haven't had the easiest time and tbh this question upset me a little. My current set of issues seem unlucky tbh, everyone else I know who has had babies recently has had it easier. I will I'm sure recover soon and have a day without painkillers or tears. Until then I will try to be patient and sleep as much as I can.

Awwww....Fluffysox - I can completely sympathise - your birth sounded like mine. I am still suffering (4 months on) from internal piles. I have a constant dull ache in my pelvic area (due to forceps? I'm not sure - the doctor doesn't know why either). I was cut too but that compared to the piles was nothing. There's not much I can do apart from wait for the pain to subside from the piles and then next month I am due to have them banded - which completely freaks me out. But the pain does get better - I sat on a rubber ring for weeks, the bath became my saviour (and still is at times). The pain from the piles isn't constant any more but I know they are still there. Glycerol suppositories are rather revolting in nature but they do help you go to the loo (just stay close when you insert one if you know what I mean - sorry if TMI!) - you can buy they for a couple of quid from the chemist or get them free on prescription.

Going to the loo still has me in tears - piles has got to be one of the most miserable complaints that people are too embarrassed to talk about. God knows how they will band internally - I am terrified of the pain. If I had known about the piles I would have asked for a C-Section - but you don't know what will be your fate at the time. However, not to scare anyone else as I would still go through it all again for my little girl.

Do ask to get referred for your piles if they continue. I do know what you are going through x

Massive congratulations TTC - Lucy is such a cute name!

Brunettegirl - my LO came 2 weeks late - on the day I was supposed to be induced! So you still have time! Good luck!

RebekahR

fluffysox wrote: »

I tried breastfeeding with my first baby. I really couldn't get to grips with it and needed help from the nurses to get a latch every time. In addition I'd had a section so not only was my tummy very swollen it took longer for my milk to come in. DS1 was a big baby. On his first day they fed him 25ml top ups of formula every 4 hours so they could check for diabetes. He didn't have diabetes. But I wasn't producing enough milk to satisfy him. He was screaming for more. I was getting upset and making the decision to start giving him the bottle when he was 4 days old was a huge weight lifted. I remember three things, my husband feeding him for the first time, a lovely healthcare assistant saying "wow just heard a baby crying and it wasn't yours!" and my baby going to sleep contented that night.
This time I was thinking of trying it again. Perhaps with a smaller baby and a more natural birth it would work out? But I wasn't going to struggle with it if it didn't happen naturally for me. As it was I had another long labour. 29 hours- last one was 49 hours so getting better :rotfl: I dilated all the way to 10cm with some "help". Bit of a traumatic journey. Anaethetist was told to apologise to me. Senior midwive on duty came specially to give me hugs after the birth cos it upset her and my poor mum nearly passed out watching. Won't go into detail about all that on here. But off to theatre we went again. This time section wasn't required, just forceps. But in recovery when covered in tubes and wires and exhausted I was asked if I wanted to bf and I thought for a moment before saying I'd decided not to. Turns out to have been the best decision for us as I have been in more pain than I was after the caesarian. Forceps delivery means my hips are very sore. Also bruised internally as well as a bit tender from episiotomy. All this would be manageable if the hour of pushing hadn't given me very bad piles. The combination means I cannot sit up. I struggle to walk. At times I cannot sit onto the toilet without crying. Swelling has made it difficult to wee (doesn't hurt to wee as you read it does) and I still cannot do the other. So I am forced to lie on my side. DH looking after baby. I have a few cuddles each day but that is it. Very upsetting but of all things I feel guilty about, bottle feeding is not one of them. My baby boy is thriving. Can't wait to get more mobile so I can start to enjoy him.

Sorry if too much detail for expectant mums. I haven't had the easiest time and tbh this question upset me a little. My current set of issues seem unlucky tbh, everyone else I know who has had babies recently has had it easier. I will I'm sure recover soon and have a day without painkillers or tears. Until then I will try to be patient and sleep as much as I can.

Golly goshly. At least they respected your wishes. Grats on the VBAC! Even if it was assisted you still did it. Hope the recovery marches on a bit better for you. Sorry to upset you I was just generally interested

Yea they are deffo hungry screamy little things the first few days until the milk comes flooding in and feed even more to ask the body to put supply up. Maybe yours hadn't yet come in. Good thing is you have done it all before so know all about making bottles etc and it doesn't harm them.
Sounds much needed to give babe to hubby whilst you rest lots too.

Sorry to upset.

RebekahR

Bangton wrote: »

Sweetie i feel your pain. I had a traumatic birth and while I'm better 3 Weeks on I feel sad that i didn't have that moment where they hand you your baby ( I was under ga) freshly born. I met him 3 hrs after he arrived. I also didn't bf because I'd been given so many drugs by iv post birth I couldn't see how breast was best. He was ff in my absence anyway when born as I was in icu so missed that first All important feed. Similarly I was too poorly to look after baby and it was a combo of oh and midwives doing all the care so bf really was just out for me. I was torn anyway on bf but think I'd have given it a go had circumstances been different. I have found it hard not bf though as baby is a bit colicky and I blame myself even though deep down I know breastfed babies get colic too. Anyway I'm not trying to upset anyone here but reading the tone of your post I just wanted you to know your not alone with the rough time and I genuinely really feel for you as I know exactly what its like to have a baby yet be able to do very little for them. Get well hun

Did they even ask you if they could give forumla? That is bad if not. That said after my csection I passed out jsut as I was about to give Jess a feed and they had to take her away and give her formula. Made me feel rubbish later when I came round and she was returned to me and she said oh the poor baby was starving, Made me feel like i wasn't caring for my own baby well enough!

Really dont blame yourself on the colic front. Jess was rough from 4 weeks old. Think most of them get so so upset and overstimulated in this new world that that doesnt help either.

We are all good mummies We get enough judgement from people outside we dont need to add it. Man I am still sharing a room with my baby at 15 months get called alsorts I do for that!

RebekahR

TTC40 wrote: »

Lucy arrived safely at a minute past mid night.

Eventful few hours but we are both well. 7lb 15.

She's beautiful and peaceful at the moment.

Will post more later.

YAY!! At last! Grats!! x

RebekahR

trina2010 wrote: »

congratulations ttc! glad shes here at last!

cloudy - happy due date! woo!
i dont think Rebekah meant any offense by her question, i know its an emotive subject but she was really just asking why people had chosen not to, there wasnt any accusation saying it was a bad thing, just curiosity. tbh its given me a bit of an insight from the answers that have come back.
personally im the same as TeamLowe, ill certainly be giving bf a good shot but if it doesnt work out im not going to beat myself up over it, happy baby is most important, its interesting hear though the pressure from others to switch to ff so they can have a turn at feeding baby. that hadne even occured to me!

Yes just curious being on the other side of it now. Also think its fab for those who havent got their babies yet to see that breastfeeding isnt the be all and end all.

As I have lots of mummies who formula feed the most common reason given was due to not producing enough milk and the constant feeding due to lack of support and education from the pushy midwives etc. They are happy to tell you you must do this but not explain what happens - why do nipples hurt - when does milk come in - why does the baby feed every hour - when do you start leaking etc etc. All these are questions I had not a clue about and felt very in the dark about.

So apart from the lack of milk/constant feeding I wondered what the other reasons were that some ladies chose not to do so.

Meh call it research Just pure interest. Sorry any ways. I'll dip out and leave you lovely ladies to it. Happy deliveries to all x

RebekahR

continualdiamond wrote: »

Evening all.

Re the BF/FF I'm FF now after a failed attempt at BF. I had an emergency c section and be to honest whilst I did want to give BF a go it was actually the last thing I wanted to do at like 3 am in the morning after my c section.

However she was put straight on me to feed and I actually didn't know what to do. I was sooo not with it and was thinking 'what the hell are you doing' when the midwife put her to my B.

I managed to BF though in hospital, however only on the right. She refused to go on the left, which was fine, but only for 3 days, come the 3rd day when I was allowed home the right B had had enough and became extremely sore, cracked and started to bleed. I did keep trying on the left but she wasn't happy on that side for whatever reason and whilst I did continue to try on the right out of guilt because she was hungry I began to wince, grit my teeth and just wish the time away so it wouldn't hurt anymore.

Come 4 am my husband was at asda buying formula, lol.

Congratulations to all the new mummy's. Time flies, so enjoy every moment. My little girl is 3 weeks old today and we had her 1st smiles last Friday, she now knows my voice and I got the biggest grin from her, it was lovely.

This is where support is key. They are all for it when in hospital and when you are out of hospital there is barely any one to call on to help you when you are desperate and crying in pain :eek:

They should have checked baby for tongue tie - checked positioning - and not just the latch but try different ways of holding baby - give you different pillows to try to see if one suited better than the other etc etc. There is so much they can do and I think if they carried on the "support" at home when all the questions and doubts kick in then thats ladies who really want to carry on can work through it.

For those that do want to give it a try just make sure you have all the phone numbers/locations/days for your local breastfeeding groups some are run by nct and are free. They will sit with you and go through lots of bits to help with any problems that crop up. Dont suffer alone. xx

IHateDida

RebekahR wrote: »

So apart from the lack of milk/constant feeding I wondered what the other reasons were that some ladies chose not to do so.

Meh call it research Just pure interest. Sorry any ways. I'll dip out and leave you lovely ladies to it. Happy deliveries to all x

For me it was having a tongue tied baby - and I do remember a health care professional saying to me that they are not just born tongue tied - they have always been tongue tied even in the womb so know no other way! Even when snipped, baby wouldn't latch and just got frustrated (despite countless support people getting "involved"!).

I went through the enormous guilt trip that you have.....but now I absolutely love my Perfect Prep machine.

In fact, I love my PP machine so much, if it was a man....I would marry it! :p:p