Why own a dog if you aren't going to walk it?

vicx

Hi, yes it is drink related but she still wouldn't have confronted me on her own. She was in and out of nosey neighbours house all day yesterday so I knew they were planning something. They waited until they seen my bathroom light on so they would know when to raise their voice to talk about me knowing I could hear.

Both these neighbours drink every night which I haven't got a problem with but to sit around each others house tit tattling and causing trouble like they did last night was disgusting and immature.

Owner is at work all day, my immediate neighbours have just gone out so nosey neighbour made this an opportunity to approach me in my garden just now. She said can I have a word with you? I said no sorry I do not want to speak please leave. At this point I didn't know she was on the phone to owner until she walked off and said I have just tried to tell her what the authority have said but she has gone in and closed the door. Who she means by the authority I don't know but I think I done the right thing going inside and closing door as I won't ever speak to those neighbours again.

Only 30 minutes ago, delivery driver tried to drop off a parcel to mine for dog owner but I refused. He seemed shocked. I said there's been trouble your best off leaving it a few doors up. I always take parcels in for her, I think she must have on the delivery note to drop off at mine as they never try her closer neighbours. I felt awful for refusing to take in a parcel to help the delivery man but I think it's more embarrassing when others know you have problem neighbours and arguing in the street. Everyone will be talking about it. It is such a lovely quiet area ruined by them. Owners house is HA but nosey neighbour owns but as long as one can be evicted its half the problem. I think she will move now, well I hope.

aileth

What complete and utter bloody cheek to say the things she did, all that trouble, and then expect you to hold onto parcels for her? Completely deluded with a capital D!!!!

Mojisola

vicx wrote: »

I'm not sure whether to inform police now, although maybe I should as they have threatened violence on me and said to watch when I am out. They are in their late 50s and 60s so should have been more mature about the situation. They dragged a lot of neighbours in to this last night to try get them turn against me making false accusations saying I have said things about them. Definitely seen their true colours tonight. I'm still in shock at what they've said that I have sat up with tears in my eyes and shaking me head in disbelief all night.

If you've got their ranting recorded on your phone, I would see the police about it. It's unlikely that this is going to settle down quietly.

demystified

What on earth are you putting up with this harassment for? You seem very reluctant to do anything. First thing I'd do is call the police.Theres no way on earth I'd tolerate any of that. It isn't just going to go away, you'll end with your car keyed and dog poo on the lawn if not through the letterbox, trust me. If the housing association receive enough complaints about these people they'll do something about it, until then nothing will happen.

As for the dogs in your garden thats nonsense, if you rented the house there might be questions, but as you own it, nada. If you had a horse buried in the garden you might have the council wanting to take a look, but a dog, utter rubbish.

ameliarate

The neighbour in the OP and the people who leave their dog in the back garden 24/7 should both be reported to the RSPCA IMMEDIATELY.

As a supposed nation of animal lovers it never ceases to amaze me how cruel people can be, sometimes unintentionally. Perhaps if the RSPCA came and spoke to the neighbour it might make her think about what she is doing to the poor dog.

As for dogs who don't bark to hear their own voices I am pretty sure mine does. Sometimes he barks at (apparently) nothing at allm then I hear the other dogs in the area respond it would be quite amusing if it wasn't irritating. He also barks at birds flying over the garden.

trolleyrun

Call the HA to log what's going on. A HA needs a list of issues before they're able to do anything re eviction. Every time this neighbour is abusive/rude/shouting/etc, log it with HA.

Next, do call the police. Use 101 if you want, they're usually good, and give you a reference number if you have further updates to the situation.

Do not put up with this! Nothing will change if you don't report it. I had to do this last year. Abusive neighbour in HA flat. Quite a few calls to HA to "build up a picture" and the local police got involved too - including the local sergeant who said "we don't want him anywhere near here". The guy got banned from the street and taken to court about his behaviour (to get him officially evicted). It was horrible when it was going on, but so lovely and peaceful once he was out of there.

Wishing you the best of luck - and please do stand your ground.

vicx

I thought it had all blown over but I had to phone police out two hours ago. Nosy neighbours two daughters in their 40s, pulled up as I was bringing dogs back in to my house from a walk when one of them shouted abuse and threats at me. They both used their cars to block my car in and were shouting that my car is not getting out. I didn't respond, instead I just phoned police. They came out within 45 mins but seemed pretty useless. Basically just had a word with both neighbours and told them both that I don't wish to speak to them again so they must not bother me. As we live right next to each other we obviously going to see and pass each other. if anything else happens then to contact them. I was hoping they would get an harassment warning then arrested if it continues but police never seem to take these things seriously.

I think I will give the HA a call tomorrow and mention that I have had to involve police regarding harassment from one of their tenants. Hopefully they will log this against her and if there are anymore complaints, then hopefully she will be evicted.

I imagine this has been nipped in the bud now and I won't have anymore trouble from either of them so it should all blow over. I think the abuse and blocking my car in will probably still continue from nosey neighbours daughters when they visit though, not that they visit often but it's just embarrassing when everyone can hear. It's not the kind of noise you hear from my area so I think everyone is shocked. I have been here 15 year and they have been here about 25 year but they showing themselves up now going on like teenagers and also doing petty things. Maybe they need men in their lives to cure their boredom and not a dog as they can't look after them.

It's a shame neither of them walk their dogs though. So back on topic, why get a dog if its left all day most days AND you aren't going to walk it...

Froglet

Do you know,vicx,i really cannot answer that simple question.A dog is expensive if cared for properly,so the other side of that is you getting pleasure from walks,,interaction,and of course the joy of seeing your dog happy.The excitement it shows when you just say the word or go towards the lead is proof of how much a dog enjoys it.I would imagine that without enough exercise the dog would get under your feet,chew things etc.And it is not ignorance because everyone knows a dog NEEDS a walk.It also makes your garden(or worse still indoors) very messed up with dog faeces.

So sorry to hear of your ongoing hassles.It must be so stressful for you.Keep ringing the police every time anything at all happens and they might just get a bit tougher on these idiots.

trolleyrun

The police won't issue a harassment order from one report, I'm afraid (unless physical violence is used). Keep calling the police (and HA) whenever there is an incident. As I said earlier, they need to build up a picture. Keep a diary, where you write the time, date and what happened, including all swear words and threatening behaviour, and add how it made you feel.

Don't be embarrassed about what other neighbours can hear. They're probably too intimidated themselves, or if they're house owners they wouldn't want to get involved as they'd have to declare it if selling their house.

vicx

trolleyrun wrote: »

The police won't issue a harassment order from one report, I'm afraid (unless physical violence is used). Keep calling the police (and HA) whenever there is an incident. As I said earlier, they need to build up a picture. Keep a diary, where you write the time, date and what happened, including all swear words and threatening behaviour, and add how it made you feel.

Don't be embarrassed about what other neighbours can hear. They're probably too intimidated themselves, or if they're house owners they wouldn't want to get involved as they'd have to declare it if selling their house.

I was harassed by an ex partner recently and police gave him an harassment warning even though it was the first report I made against him. The police did say yesterday that the problem with an harassment warning is that they can't actually tell these neighbours to keep away from me because we live so close to each other. I said I don't ever want to speak to them again so I wanted the police to issue a warning to stop them approaching me, as in coming up to me to speak/argue/violence etc. I feel like police have done nothing about it other than had a word with them.

After the police had gone, I text my parents to inform them that I had to involve police and not to speak to those neighbours again (This is my parents house which I bought and they moved out but are back living with me) they came home a few hours later and my mam checked her phone to find lazy owner had tried to ring her phone 5 times even as late as midnight last night, she has some neck! My parents have always got on with them but after this trouble they don't want to speak to them. I just can't believe she thinks its acceptable to try and speak to my mam after the abuse and threats she made towards me! Not sure if she has tried to call her today as i haven't seen my parents but hopefully she has got the hint after we rejected the calls.

I didn't know about this but my mam told me she was speaking to her a few days ago and she had said to my mam 'I know it's your vicx that reported me'. She knows? Unless someone's used my name and the HA has gave her the name off the person who made the complaint which I highly doubt it, then she doesn't 'know'. I would not dare sit there and accuse someone's daughter to their face without knowing for definite/have proof and still try to speak to the parents after the abuse and insults, some neck she has!

Another thing my mam mentioned was that owner is upset as HA are trying to get her to move because she lives alone in a 3 bedroom home. She works full time and gets a lot of help towards her rent which I'm sure she shouldn't be getting. She told me recently she pays full rent now but I didn't believe her because if she does then the ha can't make her move plus she still does same hours as before and said she wouldn't be able to find the extra £20 or so per month towards the rent so how would she afford to pay the full lot on same hours, I might get this looked in to. Then if she moves in to a 1 bed flat with no garden, dog may not be allowed so new home and if it is allowed, it will have to be walked for toileting, happy ending