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  • wealdroam
    wealdroam Posts: 19,180 Forumite
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    battleborn wrote: »
    Just because the transaction is through paypal, does not make it a business transaction.

    What??????
  • battleborn
    battleborn Posts: 516 Forumite
    wealdroam wrote: »
    What??????

    business or private sale.

    If I buy say a bike from someone and we exchange monies, does that mean they are a business or are we just making a private transaction?

    Get mi drift gwan!
  • wealdroam
    wealdroam Posts: 19,180 Forumite
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    battleborn wrote: »
    business or private sale.

    If I buy say a bike from someone and we exchange monies, does that mean they are a business or are we just making a private transaction?

    Get mi drift gwan!
    No, sorry, I don't get your drift.

    Did anyone suggest that if paypal was used, then it was a business transaction?
  • What defines a business transaction is demonstrating the seller purchases the sold item(s) with the intention of reselling, nothing else at all is of consideration.
    In the game of chess you can never let your adversary see your pieces
  • visidigi
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    What defines a business transaction is demonstrating the seller purchases the sold item(s) with the intention of reselling, nothing else at all is of consideration.

    So I buy the steelbook edition of skyfall, from amazon, which was an amazon exclusive after hmv's collapse as I knew I could sell it for more on eBay and the makes me a business?

    Sorry, it simply doesn't!
  • JimmyTheWig
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    visidigi wrote: »
    So I buy the steelbook edition of skyfall, from amazon, which was an amazon exclusive after hmv's collapse as I knew I could sell it for more on eBay and the makes me a business?

    Sorry, it simply doesn't!
    If you are buying it with the intention of selling it on at a profit then, quite simply, it does make you a business.
  • visidigi
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    If you are buying it with the intention of selling it on at a profit then, quite simply, it does make you a business.

    How/why?

    eBay doesn't make me a business seller to sell items I bought, it allows me to do so as a personal seller?

    By that definition a charity can't sell donated good as a charity, but they must be a business as they intend to make a profit. No?
  • visidigi wrote: »
    How/why?

    eBay doesn't make me a business seller to sell items I bought, it allows me to do so as a personal seller?

    By that definition a charity can't sell donated good as a charity, but they must be a business as they intend to make a profit. No?

    Come on now don't be silly, proper charities are registered as such and have special arrangements/requirements for tax and the like.

    The main people you need to be concerned about with this issue is HMRC as their view is if you buy specifically to resell you are a business and must register with them as such, simple as.

    Technically yes if you buy that Steelbook to resell you are and should but let's face it you won't and no one will care but buy 100 of them and it's a different matter, basically the more you do the more likely either HMRC will catch you or a customer will have a complaint and go to court using whatever selling history they can see as evidence you are a business.
    In the game of chess you can never let your adversary see your pieces
  • JimmyTheWig
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    visidigi wrote: »
    How/why?

    eBay doesn't make me a business seller to sell items I bought, it allows me to do so as a personal seller?
    eBay isn't the law.
    You can be a personal seller on eBay and be running a business. You can be a business seller on eBay but just be someone selling off your old stuff.

    Have a look at http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/guidance/selling/examples.htm. What yuo describe is most like Example 3, I would have said.
  • Kanny
    Kanny Posts: 2 Newbie
    Hi to the person who had problems with the ebay pink ticket refunds, we have had the same problem. My boyfriend paid 150.00 for two tickets as a surprise for me. The ebay seller has our money but we have not had the concert!! I keep getting lame excuses that he doesn't know if the tickets have been refunded yet etc.. I have now taken this out of my partners hands as he was so stressed with it all...he had to give it up but like you I feel like it is more of the point of the whole thing it seems so unfair.

    How did you get on any further forward? It's going to kill me to let this go! And yes I do know it comes with its own risks buying tickets off ebay.
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