An "unprecedented and historic result"

System

Graham_Devon wrote: »

UKIP would only die out if:

We left the Euro
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We are not in the Euro.

alleycat`

Out,_Vile_Jelly wrote: »

We live on an island next to an ocean, and wind is free. Makes sense to try and harness it, and other renewable sources.We certainly can't depend on it at present, but it would be silly not to investigate its possibilities just because wind turbines have become stupidly politicised.

The problem, for me, isn't the turbines as such but how they are deployed.
The grid isn't built to deal with them which is totally cart before the horse.
We have no "storage" capability and "wind" can't meet peak demand.

Sort that out and it starts to make more sense.
If you don't then the entire thing is giant waste of money.

Thrugelmir

kabayiri wrote: »

I suspect many people 'want' what they are told they can 'have'. We have become a marketeers dreamland.

You are right in what you say. It doesn't sound very sustainable long term though does it?

Just another historical moment that will be recorded in the annuals of time. In reality the tomorrow will simply become the new norm. As the past gets forgotten.

Thrugelmir

N1AK wrote: »

The Greens have plenty of substance, even if I disagree with much of it; they've lost momentum because green issues aren't most people's priority in tough times.

The Greens appear to be extreme left wingers in disguise. From what I've heard their policies are uncosted. The senior party officials lack real substance.

antrobus

Thrugelmir wrote: »

The Greens appear to be extreme left wingers in disguise. From what I've heard their policies are uncosted. The senior party officials lack real substance.

Watermelon, is the phrase often deployed.

The UK Green Party is where a lot of the old Eurocommunists from the CPGB went to hide.

antrobus

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

Unprecedented and historic?.....

Hardly....Lets look at the history of "protest vote" parties in the UK....

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I'm reminded of the United Empire Party.

daveyjp

Just watching the one show and the UKIP candidate for Dartford ( Jo Shipham) is so in touch with the UK that the Union Flag on her jumper is upside down.

Did she really just say that they aren't racist and even one of their candidates is 'coloured'!

Moby

Graham_Devon wrote: »

Well done UKIP. The title is how the BBC voting correspondent (I'm sure that's not his name, but he appears every voters go to the polls!) has described UKIP's results in the local elections.

UKIP are averaging 26% of the vote and have so far gained 42 seats with a lot of counting yet to undertake.

The deputy leader of the UKIP has been on the news and has accepted that some of these votes will be protest votes. He was very open about this, however, not all can be protest votes, especially as membership is also increasing.

This may....just may provide a turning point for politics itself. It may, just may, focus current politicians on sorting out the mess instead of continually kicking it into the long grass. It may, just may, focus their minds on the economic advantages, but also disadvantages of immigration.

So well done UKIP. Well deserved. Though I have to say, I didn't vote. Working weird and wonderful hours this week and couldn't go to my usual voting haunt so that was that!

Lets hope they keep it up until 2015 because the bulk of their support comes from the tory right and guess what that'll mean......yes Ed will be in Downing Street simply because their votes will not be translated into seats because of first past the post so there will no need to worry about a UKIP/Tory alliance:rotfl:
I bet they are wishing for PR now!

Moby

daveyjp wrote: »

Just watching the one show and the UKIP candidate for Dartford ( Jo Shipham) is so in touch with the UK that the Union Flag on her jumper is upside down.

Did she really just say that they aren't racist and even one of their candidates is 'coloured'!

They are made up of unreconstructed bigot's who still use 'coloured' to describe a black person...shameful!:(

Thrugelmir

daveyjp wrote: »

Did she really just say that they aren't racist and even one of their candidates is 'coloured'!

Refreshing to hear people speak normally. Rather than clouded in rehearsed spin. Foul language is now a trait of British life. So a few misplaced expressions don't deserve pulling apart.