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An "unprecedented and historic result"
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Graham_Devon wrote: »What is really annoyoing me of late is the majority of politicians sitting there and stating "the public voted for this because...."
The arrogance of politicians trying to convince the media that the public voted for something because they wanted something else is simply astounding.
Yes yes yes yes..........
I keep hearing the phrases; "we as a political party need to make sure we listen to the public on matters like Europe and Immigration"
So they admit they weren't listing before then?
You're spot on about the arrogance. It actually reminds me of the expenses scandal when there was similar sickening statements from those in the wrong, who had the arrogance to believe they could put it behind them and move on.0 -
Something very undignified about MPs changing their core beliefs when faced with electoral defeat (or at least a failure to win).Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are incapable of forming such opinions.0
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Graham_Devon wrote: »You mean Portillo?
He's hardly changed his views.
Since UKIP have been rising in the polls, Cameron has made a few remarks that move him into the sceptical category on the EU. This has lead to several comments by senior Tories that allude to a harder line. Gove, Davis, Osborne, Jesse Norman.
I agree Portillo has been consistently sceptical.Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are incapable of forming such opinions.0 -
To be fair ....these politicians are being asked questions about the rise of UKIP and the reasons for it. Also remember people have different reasons for voting UKIP...your reason may be different to someone else's?Graham_Devon wrote: »I too watched this week.
What is really annoyoing me of late is the majority of politicians sitting there and stating "the public voted for this because...."
The arrogance of politicians trying to convince the media that the public voted for something because they wanted something else is simply astounding.
The lib dem women on This Week last night did it. She stated that UKIP voters DIDN'T vote for UKIP because they are concerned over Europe. They actually voted for UKIP because they were concerned over the economy.
The labour blokes was doing the same on question time, telling us we want A B and C....we don't actually want what we are saying we want. He then went on to say he wants to do what is right for the people, but thinks it is wrong to let people have a referendum..... I mean it's just pathetic.
It was only the Tory David Davis who made the point of asking us what we want as they are here to serve us, not the other way around.
It really grates to constantly get told what we actually want and that we are actually voting for another party policies by voting for UKIP.
However, all that is goin got do is push UKIP forward as people get more frustrated by them telling us what we want and not giving us the ability to have a say.
That Chucka Urma bloke (spelling will be wrong!) is the absolute King of this nonsense.0
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