Vent - babies on longnhaul flights

System

Takeaway_Addict wrote: »

If we are to go on odds its more likely your kids will cause the trouble than a partner.

These peoples 'silly little lives' pay for their holiday as well and often the flight is part of the holiday so why should they suffer the consequence of children bawling and their parents not being able to stop it?

Hence why some flights should be adult only and some should be family friendly.

Adult only flights.

Great idea as adults are never disruptive....

In fact most of the disruption incidents I have had involved drunk idiots making a tit of themselves!

rachela552

Fair enough and if airlines introduced family friendly flights I would happily use them, I would feel more comfortable knowing that if my children were unsettled by the flight we were surrounded by sympathetic people rather than disapproving ones. As these don't exist though I maintain that my family has as much right to fly as anyone else and anyone that doesn't like it should be the ones choosing not to fly.
I used to attract the cranks and the drunks on the bus to work, but I couldn't insist they didn't ride so I learnt to drive and now use my car to get about. I get that not many people can afford private jets but I still think the same rules apply. You buy a ticket knowing it is a form of public transport

Takeaway_Addict

rachela552 wrote: »

Fair enough and if airlines introduced family friendly flights I would happily use them, I would feel more comfortable knowing that if my children were unsettled by the flight we were surrounded by sympathetic people rather than disapproving ones. As these don't exist though I maintain that my family has as much right to fly as anyone else and anyone that doesn't like it should be the ones choosing not to fly.
I used to attract the cranks and the drunks on the bus to work, but I couldn't insist they didn't ride so I learnt to drive and now use my car to get about. I get that not many people can afford private jets but I still think the same rules apply. You buy a ticket knowing it is a form of public transport

Your last point is a fair point, I guess the only difference is the time on the public transport as an average.

ThumbRemote

Takeaway_Addict wrote: »

Not all good ideas are financially viable

Restricting a flight to adults only restricts the number of people who are able to travel on that flight. As such, seats may be left empty and the cost rises.

It's only not financially viable because people aren't willing to pay the extra cost for this benefit. Essentially, not enough adults are so bothered about the noise children make on flights that they will pay extra to avoid it.

Therefore the issue is not with the families of crying children, it is with the selfish adults who feel obliged to moan yet are not willing to pay more to avoid the problem.

ILW

ThumbRemote wrote: »

Restricting a flight to adults only restricts the number of people who are able to travel on that flight. As such, seats may be left empty and the cost rises.

It's only not financially viable because people aren't willing to pay the extra cost for this benefit. Essentially, not enough adults are so bothered about the noise children make on flights that they will pay extra to avoid it.

Therefore the issue is not with the families of crying children, it is with the selfish adults who feel obliged to moan yet are not willing to pay more to avoid the problem.

I would pay more, just nobody is offering.
I would also like to see adult only restaurants.

System

ILW wrote: »

I would pay more, just nobody is offering.
I would also like to see adult only restaurants.

If youre prepared to pay more then go to more expensive restaurants e.g none chain.

I've never seen any children in decent more expensive restaurants when I go there. If you frequent pizza express, Frankie and Bennys, Nandos etc then you will see children there

battleborn

goater78 wrote: »

If youre prepared to pay more then go to more expensive restaurants e.g none chain.

I've never seen any children in decent more expensive restaurants when I go there. If you frequent pizza express, Frankie and Bennys, Nandos etc then you will see children there

Yes I agree, you should be eating at Michelin star establishments.

System

battleborn wrote: »

Yes I agree, you should be eating at Michelin star establishments.

Not Michelin star but if you're prepared to pay more for an adult only restaurant all you have to do is go to a decent restaurant. I very rarely see children at the restaurants I go to.

ILW

goater78 wrote: »

Not Michelin star but if you're prepared to pay more for an adult only restaurant all you have to do is go to a decent restaurant. I very rarely see children at the restaurants I go to.

I have been caught out on a few occasions where a mid range restaurant has allowed a "family" in for a meal. Got a free meal in one case.
Just would like to see it flagged up.

Dumbe

I read this thread with interest and was surprised that people seemed to think babies inevitably cried on planes and people with children should not fly. Which seems crazy.

That said surely it is the job of the parent to keep their child quiet and not disturb people arround them where ever they may be.

I have flown many times and have heard babies for a few minutes at various times but never for the whole 9 hours. And I have flown many many times with babies seat near me ( within 6 rows)

Most parents seem to have methods of quitening their child down be it a walk arround the plane, a bottle or calpol of something soothing.


Surely if the baby cries for hours and the parent ignores the child bawling its eyes out for hours on end ( one example on this thread was a parennt ignoring thier child and going to sleep )rather then complain about the noise, consider calling social services as soon as you land and reporting the neglect you witnessed.

The parent may be struggling and may benefit from some midwife support and or support from social services.