Vent - babies on longnhaul flights

Lokolo

Georgiegirl256 wrote: »

So from what I can gather, kids that scream, cry and are generally noisy....not allowed on flights? Well behaved, quiet children....allowed? Ok, so following that logic, how would you know? Even the most well behaved children can become upset and cry.

Yes but I can understand there is a difference between ill-behaved children knowing they would not be able to cope, and a child (or adult) being ill or having a head/ear ache.

To say children should be banned off flights etc is totally ludicrous, and yes, I do agree that it's extremely annoying, but no more annoying than a drunken idiot or a person that likes the sound of their own voice or someone kicking the back of your seat for example.

Yep and I think those people should also have the same 'rules' applied to them.

And I don't think children should be banned!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ahhhhhhhhh going insaaaaane. I just think parents (or grandparents in the case of meer) should make the decent decision of, if their kids will be unable to cope, don't take them.

doughnutmachine

goater78 wrote: »

Personally in my dealings with people who suffer from mental disabilities I find an innocence that is often greatly endearing. I do not assume they are violent and should be kept away from the general public....

when i was a kid i went on a coach trip for the day. there were about half a dozen mentally ill people on the trip with their carers. one of them p1ssed himself, i remember the p1ss flowed down the centre aisle, it was pretty disgusting.

do i think people should be able to get on a bus/ airplane without a passenger p1ssing himeself? yes i do.

do i think the mentally ill should be locked away? no i don't

but sometimes i do think the needs of the few are held to be more important than the needs of the many.

Georgiegirl256

Lokolo wrote: »

edit - Don't get me started on babies and kids in a restaurants and the parents let them carry on!

Yes, I totally agree, but by saying that, it just looks like you're looking for confrontation and an argument by bringing another topic of conversation into the mix.n

meer53

Lokolo wrote: »

Yes but I can understand there is a difference between ill-behaved children knowing they would not be able to cope, and a child (or adult) being ill or having a head/ear ache.



Yep and I think those people should also have the same 'rules' applied to them.

And I don't think children should be banned!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ahhhhhhhhh going insaaaaane. I just think parents (or grandparents in the case of meer) should make the decent decision of, if their kids will be unable to cope, don't take them.

What makes you think i have grandchildren ? My daughter is 12.

Lokolo

notanewuser wrote: »

DD can cope with being in the car all day with no problems.

However, I'm unable to rest the impact of taking off and landing on her ears, so there is a risk that she might be distressed then. I can have things with me to try and mitigate the risk, but I can't prevent it completely.

Yes and I for one do get a lot of head and ear aches on flights (funnily enough, I am a terrible flyer!). But you have said your children (or child) have been fine on a flight. Yes, they may hurt and cry for a while, but not become a massive nuisance.

I am talking about crying and moaning for an hour being annoying, not 20 minutes.

Georgiegirl256

Lokolo wrote: »

Yes but I can understand there is a difference between ill-behaved children knowing they would not be able to cope, and a child (or adult) being ill or having a head/ear ache.



Yep and I think those people should also have the same 'rules' applied to them.

And I don't think children should be banned!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ahhhhhhhhh going insaaaaane. I just think parents (or grandparents in the case of meer) should make the decent decision of, if their kids will be unable to cope, don't take them.

Well, that's what we're trying to say, how would you know if they would be ok, would be able to cope?

Lokolo

meer53 wrote: »

What makes you think i have grandchildren ? My daughter is 12.

I thought it was you that has grandchildren.... I can't find the original post but someone said children and grandchildren!

Lokolo

Georgiegirl256 wrote: »

Well, that's what we're trying to say, how would you know if they would be ok, would be able to cope?

If you don't have a decent idea that they would be able to cope, you don't take them.

Dogger69

doughnutmachine wrote: »

when i was a kid i went on a coach trip for the day. there were about half a dozen mentally ill people on the trip with their carers. one of them p1ssed himself, i remember the p1ss flowed down the centre aisle, it was pretty disgusting.

do i think people should be able to get on a bus/ airplane without a passenger p1ssing himeself? yes i do.

do i think the mentally ill should be locked away? no i don't

but sometimes i do think the needs of the few are held to be more important than the needs of the many.

So if you had seen a non mentally ill person wet themselves (yes, it happens), would you suggest they all be banned from flights too?

notanewuser

Lokolo wrote: »

Yes and I for one do get a lot of head and ear aches on flights (funnily enough, I am a terrible flyer!). But you have said your children (or child) have been fine on a flight. Yes, they may hurt and cry for a while, but not become a massive nuisance.

I am talking about crying and moaning for an hour being annoying, not 20 minutes.

Well, as a 4 month old I breastfed her on takeoff and landing, to try and prevent any pain. We stopped that a while back now, so I won't have that magic trick up my sleeve.