Vent - babies on longnhaul flights

Dogger69

doughnutmachine wrote: »

usually stereotypes have a sprinkle of truth in them....

or has no one ever met a drunk glaswegian?

So you are suggesting that mentally ill people have a tendency to be dangerous?

Wowzers!

mumps

This all seems to be getting a bit heated. I imagine Lokolo doesn't know much about babies, sorry if I am wrong there. It is almost impossible to predict how a baby will behave at any given time. It can be irritating if they cry but hey we were all babies and we probably all annoyed people when we cried. Young children, well that can be a different story. I have children, I have grandchildren, I love children but I absolutely hate being stuck on a plane, or a train or a coach, with parents who let their 3 year old run around annoying people, kicking the back of seats, throwing things about etc. These parents generally seem oblivious and I tend to agree with Lokolo on these people. I think if your child behaves horrendously and you do nothing to control them the airline should cancel your return ticket. It might concentrate some people's minds.

I also hate travelling with drunks but that is a whole different story. Oh and don't even mention drunk football fans on a train, I check football matches before travelling to local city after a very unpleasant journey with a lot of fans of a Yorkshire team who had been on the train for about 4 hrs when I got on. Babies screaming would have been light relief.

Dogger69

mumps wrote: »

This all seems to be getting a bit heated.

Not sure about heated - it's hilarious!

System

Lokolo wrote: »

Holidays no.
Family no.

The only reason no to the latter is because it's a choice that was made. You chose to move to another country and have a child. Obviously parents make many sacrifices when having a child, and I think this should be one.

Oh and this is assuming you know your child is a pain. There have been many people on this thread who have given examples of good behaving children. They can fly whenever they like

So a job abroad leads to family exile?

So if I live in the UK, lose my job and get a new job in Australia I wouldn't be allowed to take my baby with me as its my own fault for choosing a job in Australia?

doughnutmachine

Dogger69 wrote: »

So you are suggesting that mentally ill people have a tendency to be dangerous?

Wowzers!

i would imagine that people with certain mental illnesses have a greater tendency, than the general population, to commit acts of violence.

unless you have proof otherwise?

meer53

Lokolo wrote: »

I don't see what is wrong with this? (I don't mean the actual concept of the questions at check in, but the general attitude of parents about their child)

The best behaved and most angelic children can become upset on a flight. How do you expect parents to know this before they get on a plane ? And if it happens on the first flight, it doesn't necessarily mean it will happen on another.

I have a friend whose 2 year old behaved perfectly well on a long haul flight, only to wake up from a nap and immediately vomit on the person in the next seat. Children are unpredictable, it's life, being on a flight with a crying baby isn't going to scar you forever, it's something you accept. It's no-ones fault.

System

doughnutmachine wrote: »

i would imagine that people with certain mental illnesses have a greater tendency, than the general population, to commit acts of violence.

unless you have proof otherwise?

Surely you have to provide the proof first?

I assume you're advocating the 1930's Germany solution to people who are mentally disabled?

Personally in my dealings with people who suffer from mental disabilities I find an innocence that is often greatly endearing. I do not assume they are violent and should be kept away from the general public....

LannieDuck

meer53 wrote: »

I have a friend whose 2 year old behaved perfectly well on a long haul flight, only to wake up from a nap and immediately vomit on the person in the next seat.

Oh goodness, every parent's nightmare! :eek:

meer53

doughnutmachine wrote: »

i would imagine that people with certain mental illnesses have a greater tendency, than the general population, to commit acts of violence.

unless you have proof otherwise?

I think you imagine wrong !

I would imagine it's the other way round, by a long way :eek:

Lokolo

meer53 wrote: »

The best behaved and most angelic children can become upset on a flight. How do you expect parents to know this before they get on a plane ? And if it happens on the first flight, it doesn't necessarily mean it will happen on another.

I have a friend whose 2 year old behaved perfectly well on a long haul flight, only to wake up from a nap and immediately vomit on the person in the next seat. Children are unpredictable, it's life, being on a flight with a crying baby isn't going to scar you forever, it's something you accept. It's no-ones fault.

That wouldn't bother me.

A child screaming for 3 hours would however.

edit - Don't get me started on babies and kids in a restaurants and the parents let them carry on!