Vent - babies on longnhaul flights

Dogger69

doughnutmachine wrote: »

i would imagine that people with certain mental illnesses have a greater tendency, than the general population, to commit acts of violence.

unless you have proof otherwise?

Certain mental illnesses, yes - but that's not what you said. You generalised, just in the way that I might say 'men are wife beaters'. Clearly I know that does not apply to all men, but certain groups of men do have a greater tendency, than the general population, to do so.

meer53

Lokolo wrote: »

That wouldn't bother me.

A child screaming for 3 hours would however.

I have 2 children, i have friends with children, i don't know of any child that would scream for 3 hours, unless it was ill.

Dogger69

meer53 wrote: »

I think you imagine wrong !

I would imagine it's the other way round, by a long way :eek:

Paranoid schizophrenics have a greater tendency towards violence, but we're talking about a very small minority in terms of the number of people with MH conditions.

meer53

LannieDuck wrote: »

Oh goodness, every parent's nightmare! :eek:

I know, give me a crying baby any day ! At least the crying stops, the smell of vomit lives with you for hours and hours.

Lokolo

meer53 wrote: »

I have 2 children, i have friends with children, i don't know of any child that would scream for 3 hours, unless it was ill.

Yes but you know how your children react in long car journeys etc. and can make an educated decision whether or not they would be able to cope with a long haul flight.

Would you really take your children (or grandchildren) on a long haul flight for a holiday knowing full well they would get agitated and likely to become 'moany' and cry, disturbing other passengers?

meer53

Dogger69 wrote: »

Paranoid schizophrenics have a greater tendency towards violence, but we're talking about a very small minority in terms of the number of people with MH conditions.

I agree, also in relation to the number of violent crimes committed.

Georgiegirl256

Lokolo wrote: »

Holidays no.
Family no.

The only reason no to the latter is because it's a choice that was made. You chose to move to another country and have a child. Obviously parents make many sacrifices when having a child, and I think this should be one.

Oh and this is assuming you know your child is a pain. There have been many people on this thread who have given examples of good behaving children. They can fly whenever they like

Wow! Just wow! I really don't think I've come across such an obnoxious small minded individual as you for a very long time....

So from what I can gather, kids that scream, cry and are generally noisy....not allowed on flights? Well behaved, quiet children....allowed? Ok, so following that logic, how would you know? Even the most well behaved children can become upset and cry.

To say children should be banned off flights etc is totally ludicrous, and yes, I do agree that it's extremely annoying, but no more annoying than a drunken idiot or a person that likes the sound of their own voice or someone kicking the back of your seat for example.

notanewuser

Lokolo wrote: »

Yes but you know how your children react in long car journeys etc. and can make an educated decision whether or not they would be able to cope with a long haul flight.

Would you really take your children (or grandchildren) on a long haul flight for a holiday knowing full well they would get agitated and likely to become 'moany' and cry, disturbing other passengers?

DD can cope with being in the car all day with no problems.

However, I'm unable to rest the impact of taking off and landing on her ears, so there is a risk that she might be distressed then. I can have things with me to try and mitigate the risk, but I can't prevent it completely.

Georgiegirl256

meer53 wrote: »

I know, give me a crying baby any day ! At least the crying stops, the smell of vomit lives with you for hours and hours.

Yes it does! I was sick all over my Mam's skirt (I was 4), more or less a minute or two after we'd set off from home and still had an hours taxi ride and a 1 to 2 hour plane ride ahead of us....I was extremely travel sick (and quite possibly excited too!), poor Mam :rotfl:

meer53

Lokolo wrote: »

Yes but you know how your children react in long car journeys etc. and can make an educated decision whether or not they would be able to cope with a long haul flight.

Would you really take your children (or grandchildren) on a long haul flight for a holiday knowing full well they would get agitated and likely to become 'moany' and cry, disturbing other passengers?

Yes, i would. Because you have absolutely no idea until you're on that flight how your child is going to react. Doesn't matter how they reacted last week, month, year. The majority of passengers don't mind crying children, if they're parents themselves, they usually understand. I always do. I'm not spending the rest of my life on the flight am i ? Kids cry, have tantrums, get over it,