Vent - babies on longnhaul flights

System

doughnutmachine wrote: »

but an excuse that a lot of killers use is that they are mentally ill? or do you think the people locked up in broadmoor are sane?

Now mentally disabled people are killers?

I sense we are going off topic this is far more interesting to discuss than the subject!

doughnutmachine

goater78 wrote: »

Why bring it up in the first place?

Anyone can be dangerous but the first thing you thought was they are dangerous. That's greatly offensive.

You should be ashamed of what sort of person you are!

sorry, but it wasn't me that brought up "mentally disabled" in this thread. was it not you?

Dogger69

Lokolo wrote: »

Yes it is. I think it's just polite and courteous.

The arrogance was to expect to have the right to fly even if it could cause upset or misery to other passengers.

Just as it is polite and courteous to be considerate towards those that might not be as comfortable flying as you are?

meer53

Maybe Lokolo would like to see additional questions at check in. You know, in addition to the usual, is this your bag, did you pack it etc

1. Is this your child ?
2. Does it cry ?
3. Is it likely to cry on the flight ?
4. Does it have tantrums ?
5. Does it have a bed time routine ?

Answering "yes" to 2 or more of these questions means we cannot check you in so you can't fly with us today i'm afraid. Goodbye.

Sorted

System

doughnutmachine wrote: »

sorry, but it wasn't me that brought up "mentally disabled" in this thread. was it not you?

Yes it was but not in reference to the fact they are a bunch of mudering savages who should be kept away from the general public!

LannieDuck

Lokolo wrote: »

Yes it is.

Ok, thank you. I think it's helpful to know exactly what we're disagreeing about :P

I'm assuming there are exceptions to your view, otherwise it would be plain unreasonable:

Can children (in your opinion) fly if they have a terminally ill relative abroad?
Can they fly if they have a large extended family abroad (i.e. it would be prohibitively expensive to bring the family to the UK)
Can they fly if the family abroad can't afford the plane fare to UK / time off work to visit UK?

(Full disclosure - I think all three are fine, but you obviously may disagree!)

Or is it simply that you think it's ok to take a child abroad to visit relatives, but not ok to take them abroad on holiday?

Lokolo

meer53 wrote: »

Maybe Lokolo would like to see additional questions at check in. You know, in addition to the usual, is this your bag, did you pack it etc

1. Is this your child ?
2. Does it cry ?
3. Is it likely to cry on the flight ?
4. Does it have tantrums ?
5. Does it have a bed time routine ?

Answering "yes" to 2 or more of these questions means we cannot check you in so you can't fly with us today i'm afraid. Goodbye.

Sorted

I don't see what is wrong with this? (I don't mean the actual concept of the questions at check in, but the general attitude of parents about their child)

LannieDuck

Lokolo wrote: »

Yes it is. I think it's just polite and courteous.

The arrogance was to expect to have the right to fly even if it could cause upset or misery to other passengers.

Oh You've edited your post since I replied.

How can a parent know whether their child will cause misery or upset to other passengers until they try taking them on a plane?

doughnutmachine

Dogger69 wrote: »

Do you know how few people are in Broadmoor, in comparison to the number that get tried for murder? Claiming to be mentally ill is very different from actually being mentally ill.

But you keep going with those stereotypes ...

usually stereotypes have a sprinkle of truth in them....

or has no one ever met a drunk glaswegian?

Lokolo

LannieDuck wrote: »

Ok, thank you. I think it's helpful to know exactly what we're disagreeing about :P

I'm assuming there are exceptions to your view, otherwise it would be plain unreasonable:

Can children (in your opinion) fly if they have a terminally ill relative abroad? Yes
Can they fly if they have a large extended family abroad (i.e. it would be prohibitively expensive to bring the family to the UK) No
Can they fly if the family abroad can't afford the plane fare to UK / time off work to visit UK? No

(Full disclosure - I think all three are fine, but you obviously may disagree!)

Or is it simply that you think it's ok to take a child abroad to visit relatives, but not ok to take them abroad on holiday?

Holidays no.
Family no.

The only reason no to the latter is because it's a choice that was made. You chose to move to another country and have a child. Obviously parents make many sacrifices when having a child, and I think this should be one.

Oh and this is assuming you know your child is a pain. There have been many people on this thread who have given examples of good behaving children. They can fly whenever they like