Help please, why are we not getting viewers?

Wobblydeb

Ivana_Tinkle wrote: »

All the emphasis on the potential number of bedrooms sounds like your target market is a slum landlord.

Honestly, if you were trying to make a nice house sound unappealing, this is how to do it! Are you happy with seeing your home described like this? Your agent seems completely clueless - can you change?

I know people don't like the idea of it, but what if this is the most sizeable market for a house of this size, in this area? It is one heck of a big house, and the area (sorry OP) is not the nicest. Have a look at the conversion flats in the next building. Unless they have had some TLC since google street maps visited, then the agent may be targeting the correct market.

DannyboyMidlands

Well you are clearly pushing it as a HMO, slumlord type property with a fanciful rental value and corresponding fanciful asking price that investors are not keen on.

The neighbouring houses seem pretty much derelict (HMO's?), shops accross the road scruffy and/or closed down and it has currently only got 3 usable bedrooms so not a family home.

You need to drop the price until the investors are interested. I can't see it being worth any more than £150k.

I reckon its not worth much more than £150k but the EA is pushing it as a

Dukesy

The pictures are beyond bad. The description raves on about space, but those pictures make the place look cramped, dated and unloved. They do not make it look like an attractive property at all.
A bit of furniture rearranging is needed, as well as a few homely touches. The angles are also dreadful and there are not enough pictures.

The price seems quite high, especially when married with those pictures.

Also, whoever wrote the first bit of the description should be shot. It's very poorly written, doesn't do anything to make the place sound attractive, and sounds like someone's gone off in a mad rant out of pure desperation that they cannot get rid of the place.

tessie_bear

hi i think you need some new pics the kitchen is great and the fire looks really nice but the bedrooms look very stark and lacking nice touches

the cabinet by the loo looks very odd

sorry to be cheeky but where did you get that table in your kitchen im after one like that...i hope you sell quick its such a pain waiting when u want to move on

Wobblydeb

mumtoomany wrote: »

The cellar conversion complies to building regs, has fire access, windows, radiators, etc. The loft does not. Although my son sleeps there when home from uni.

Mumtoomany - are you sure re the cellar conversion? This will be a major point for a buyer, and could get you closer to the asking price if the two cellar rooms with windows could legally be described as bedrooms!

At the moment, I am guessing that you might be wrong on building regs, otherwise the agent would have labelled those rooms as bedrooms on the floorplan.

That would be VERY worth checking, and getting correct.

Dunroamin

Wobblydeb wrote: »

That's a bog-standard small front bedroom in a Victorian terrace...... look at the windows.

Have to disagree, look at the floor plan where you can see the original doorway into a large front room across the whole building - this is why the room is so narrow for it's depth and looks so out of proportion.

aliasojo

Dunroamin wrote: »

Have to disagree, look at the floor plan where you can see the original doorway into a large front room across the whole building - this is why the room is so narrow for it's depth and looks so out of proportion.

Look at the master bedroom bay window on the floor plan.

As you look at the plan, the wall to the left of the window is the wall that has the pine wardrobes on.

Doesn't look as if it's been altered.

Fire_Fox

mumtoomany wrote: »

Wow! Can't believe how many replies I've had so far. Thank you all for your comments. Don't worry about being blunt, I can take it. Rather you spoke your mind, at least then I know what needs doing. Have called in on EA this morning. He has not lined anyone up for this weeks viewing yet, but gave the impression he had not tried!

It is on Rightmove, but I could not get the link to work. These are the second set of photos! The first were worse. I have also had him correct many of his spelling and grammar mistakes. I think after this weekend I will be looking for a new EA.

Will re-arrange the beds, and try to find somewhere else (storage?) for the wardrobes. The second bedroom photo (red flowered bedding) is in the cellar/basement. The EA said that "if we put too many pictures on, nobody will view as they will have seen it all."

He also thought it would sell well as multiple occupancy. They had just sold a similar one in the next street for this, he claimed. I think it would be better as a large family home.

The cellar conversion complies to building regs, has fire access, windows, radiators, etc. The loft does not. Although my son sleeps there when home from uni.

Will take down that picture, to be honest it annoys me too, hanging at that angle. One of those things you are always going to do.... Will get some flowers and pot plants bought too.

Sorry if this reply is a bit jumbled, answering questions as I spotted them.

Thanks again for the advice, keep it coming, will let you all know haw we go on,

mumtoomany.

New estate agent sounds like a wise move. Definitely put in the listing if the cellar space has full buildings regs sign off and you can prove this. These are habitable rooms which the listing does not make clear calling them 'chambers' and with no photos. It's not a five bedroom house without these rooms, you have four beds on the main floor, cannot legally describe the loft space as a bedroom if it does not have building regs.

It's not a great layout for selling as a family home and looks to be a lot of work and cost. Bedrooms and toilets are all over the place and, as we have said, no images of the garden space. Would more appeal to families with teens as it stands, not those with young children. Loft and/ or cellar could then be used as teen chilling space and the main living areas as adult/ formal living space.

How much of a nightmare would it be to get one or more of
1. Loft space made into a legal/ habitable bedroom
2. Outline planning permission and rough costings to convert to flats
3. Outline planning and rough costings to convert to HMO
4. Plans and costs to make a master en suite on the main bedroom floor, even actually have that done. Looks like you could count two beds in the cellar at a push so still be selling as five beds. One bathroom for three/ four bedroom spaces is inadequate for most families
5. New light / neutral carpets for anything patterned or dark. In the front room this would showcase the lovely fire place, your suite lends itself fine to that too.

notanewuser

Dunroamin wrote: »

Have to disagree, look at the floor plan where you can see the original doorway into a large front room across the whole building - this is why the room is so narrow for it's depth and looks so out of proportion.

Agreed. Definitely a hack job (just like the study at the back). You just need to look at where the doorways are to see what's happened. And that's why the bed looks so out of place. It should be 90 degrees to how it is.

This was originally a 2 up 2 down with a cellar and the stairs through the middle. Everything behind the largest part of the house is extension and stud walls have been moved/put in to break up bigger rooms.

Looks a mess to me.

aliasojo

notanewuser wrote: »

Agreed. Definitely a hack job (just like the study at the back). You just need to look at where the doorways are to see what's happened. And that's why the bed looks so out of place. It should be 90 degrees to how it is.

Are you looking at the 'doorway' at the end of the bed in the room with the pine wardrobes?

If so, why would have a doorway have skirting across it? Looks like a cupboard to me. I think the doorway is at the end of the run of units.

OP can you clarify?