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  • nicegirl
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    I think those are comprehensive and fair options, Jack. And you are right to stick to your guns about saying no to any more protracted negotiation via the solicitors.

    Fingers crossed for the viewing tomorrow!

    Have a great weekend! :)
  • RAS
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    Fingers crossed re the house although I think you will struggle until after the court case.........
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  • ampersand
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    edited 8 November 2014 at 1:24AM
    Another set of crossed fingers here...

    I'm very concerned about your Landlord's's eagerness to play at litigation - easy when not the bill payer. I do hope no hint of your current situ has been 'relayed' to them, via some 'unspecified' conduit.
    You are under more than enough pressure now

    Every one of those 3 options spells LARGESSE and GENEROSITY to ex, Jack.
    Every one of them is more than fair to her.
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  • justme111
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    All 3 options look good. Hopefully she will be advised to take them (likely with some more bargaining for longer maintenance). Considering the court will cost afew grand and she may sway a judge into more (by a sob story of how she can not afford special food for a beloved dog costing her £300 a month , never mind you do not have a luxury of a pet let alone so expensive one yourself ) you may want to concede her a few more months of maintenance for a clean break. Will follow the thread with an interest to see what her response will be. Have a nice weekend , from your reports it looks like you are living your life now , not only living the divorce ih is great.
    The word "dilemma" comes from Greek where "di" means two and "lemma" means premise. Refers usually to difficult choice between two undesirable options.
    Often people seem to use this word mistakenly where "quandary" would fit better.
  • JackRS
    JackRS Posts: 1,063 Forumite
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    I will again assure you that I am not a solicitor that will engage in unnecessary ‘ping pong’ correspondence.

    However, you will need to be aware that there has to be an element of interaction between myself and her solicitor in order to get matters resolved.

    At the next hearing (FDR) the Judge will hear each parties position, and will give an indication of which approach they would favour, if they were going to determine the case at a Final Hearing.

    The FDR Judge’s powers are limited to approving an order that is reached by agreement on the day, or giving further directions for the case to progress through to Final Hearing. I wanted to bring this to your attention, as you refer below to the hearing being ‘conclusive’. It will only be conclusive if we are able to reach an agreement. If no agreement can be reached, then the matter will be listed for a Final Hearing. It is at a Final Hearing that the Judge will impose their order upon you, and their order will be binding (subject to any potential appeal).

    Regarding the offsetting of pension sharing, it is only a rule of thumb and my view that the capital offset value of pensions are worth about one third of the overall Cash Equivalent. Other professionals may have a different viewpoint, given that there is no set in stone approach. I know that I have advised you that this is only my view previously, but I do just want to reiterate the point.

    Regarding the potential change in your circumstances, this is a risk of course, and one that it is very difficult to reach an agreement that protects you against. I think that if we put forward any proposal, it be option 1 rather than 2 or 3.

    Also, pension sharing is immediate, so once a Consent Order financial agreement is approved by the court, and Decree Absolute is pronounced, the pension share will be processed. It is not a matter of waiting until retirement before the pension share actually proceeds.

    I want to be clear that I am of the view that we at least put forward one proposal for settlement prior to FDR. If you want me to draft a letter to the other side setting out option 1, please let me know.

    On a final note, I do just want to let you know that I will shortly be commencing maternity leave, and so will be transferring your file to one of my colleagues. I have cut my hours down to 4 days per week, and my final day in the office will be Friday 5th December 2014.

    I look forward to hearing from you.
    Regards

    JackRS
  • rpc
    rpc Posts: 2,353 Forumite
    JackRS wrote: »
    I will again assure you that I am not a solicitor that will engage in unnecessary ‘ping pong’ correspondence.

    Well of course not, because that would lead to a malpractice claim.

    But "unnecessary" is in the eye of the beholder.
  • victory
    victory Posts: 16,188 Forumite
    Ping pong is so expensive for you:eek:
    misspiggy wrote: »
    I'm sure you're an angel in disguise Victory :)
  • justme111
    justme111 Posts: 3,531 Forumite
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    I doubt it would be to jack's benefit to get angry and resentful of solicitor's money , up to him whether to reply to a solicitor either "no thank you I.do not want any more bargaining" - but if he was to come up with it then there was be no reason for him to exchange the last couple of letters with solicitor either so I assume as he replied with counteroffers he is happy to put it forward or "yes please." And then switch his attention to somewhere else.
    The word "dilemma" comes from Greek where "di" means two and "lemma" means premise. Refers usually to difficult choice between two undesirable options.
    Often people seem to use this word mistakenly where "quandary" would fit better.
  • harz99
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    JackRS wrote: »

    Regarding the offsetting of pension sharing, it is only a rule of thumb and my view that the capital offset value of pensions are worth about one third of the overall Cash Equivalent. Other professionals may have a different viewpoint, given that there is no set in stone approach. I know that I have advised you that this is only my view previously, but I do just want to reiterate the point.

    I think that if we put forward any proposal, it be option 1 rather than 2 or 3.


    I want to be clear that I am of the view that we at least put forward one proposal for settlement prior to FDR. If you want me to draft a letter to the other side setting out option 1, please let me know.

    On a final note, I do just want to let you know that I will shortly be commencing maternity leave, and so will be transferring your file to one of my colleagues. I have cut my hours down to 4 days per week, and my final day in the office will be Friday 5th December 2014.

    I look forward to hearing from you.


    Wow, a lot of "her view" and she is not even going to be taking the case forward. "one of her colleagues" takes over and may have a completely different viewpoint!


    Maybe, knowing that she would not be able to follow the case through, she should already have handed the case over after consulting with her client, as to whom the client wants to carry on - such arrogance!!
  • kelpie35
    kelpie35 Posts: 1,789 Forumite
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    Well Jack I hope that whoever she hands over to is a bit more competent.

    Do these solicitors really understand they are fighting your case and should be trying to get the best outcome for you.

    It makes me so angry that they seem to earn their living very easily, and in the meantime trying to bankrupt their clients.

    How did the viewing go on the FH?
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