Child-minder suspended

thegirlintheattic

Lance wrote: »

I think the fact he reported the matter to a teacher shows what kind of malicious little brat he is. "I was in me mums face and bi*ch slapped me so I grassed her up and she'll lose her job!" Let's hope the Social Services take action and take this poor child into a care home so he is safe from her and she can get on with her life.

As for all the outraged luvvies on here swooning at the thought of a 13 year old boy, likely bigger than mum, being slapped by his mother no matter what he has done, whether she did it or not, I agree .... let's burn the witch! No wonder there is so much violence and disorder amongst kids today as they know nobody dare so much as touch them.

You do not know what happened. As a teacher, the few disclosures I've been party to have usually happened in passing; a child makes a comment rather than "grassing" the parent up.

Amanda65

bitemebankers wrote: »

I'm thinking in the legal sense. If the police were asked about someone who had a record for violence, they'd describe that person as having a history of violence.

I see your point though. The term would be more closely associated with a pattern of behaviour. However, I can't be the only one who would assume that it was not the first time this woman had hit a child. It's merely the first time it's come to the attention of the authorities.

In the same way that I can't be the only one to be prepared to give benefit of the doubt that it's the first time this woman has been driven to her limits by a mouthy 13 yo who decided to cause trouble - it works both ways !

bitemebankers

Amanda65 wrote: »

In the same way that I can't be the only one to be prepared to give benefit of the doubt that it's the first time this woman has been driven to her limits by a mouthy 13 yo who decided to cause trouble - it works both ways !

I must say, I'm disappointed by the number of people leaping to the defence of someone else's violent conduct.

adouglasmhor

bitemebankers wrote: »

I must say, I'm disappointed by the number of people leaping to the defence of someone else's violent conduct.

It may well be violent , but it could be both legal and proportionate. Surely jumping the gun and pillorying the woman is neither reasonable nor proportionate.

lostinrates

bitemebankers wrote: »

I must say, I'm disappointed by the number of people leaping to the defence of someone else's violent conduct.

I am just not jumping to condone things in a black and white way when we don't have any idea of even one complete side of the story.

While you might interpret that as defending violence I in turn am disappointed by those ready to condemn totally based on such incomplete information and understanding of a situation.

bitemebankers

adouglasmhor wrote: »

It may well be violent , but it could be both legal and proportionate.

Legal, maybe. But not for too much longer, hopefully. Proportionate? No. Domestic violence is always completely unacceptable to me. It used to be legal to beat your spouse - that didn't make it any more morally acceptable.

Surely jumping the gun and pillorying the woman is neither reasonable nor proportionate.

I'm not "jumping the gun". I have a zero-tolerance position on violence and a make no apologies for it.

So many people go on about wanting a less violent society. Well, people, this is where it starts: at home. If you can't restrain yourself from hitting your nearest and dearest, there's really no hope for the rest of society.

lostinrates

bitemebankers wrote: »

I'm not "jumping the gun". I have a zero-tolerance position on violence and a make no apologies for it.
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Can you hand on heart guarantee there was violence from the information provided?

My approach to the forum is that it is a delicate balance between accepting that everything written could be 100% true or totally fake. It's the same with information you receive in other ways. It's possible the boy has lied, its possible the childminder is violent and should not have care of children.....are you really prepared to decry a person on the information in this thread?

bitemebankers

lostinrates wrote: »

My approach to the forum is that it is a delicate balance between accepting that everything written could be 100% true or totally fake. It's the same with information you receive in other ways. It's possible the boy has lied, its possible the childminder is violent and should not have care of children.....are you really prepared to decry a person on the information in this thread?

I'm commenting on the OP at face value. I'm just posting messages on the internet same as everyone else here. We're not social workers or magistrates or cops (well some of us may be IRL, but that's not important) so it doesn't really matter if the OP is lies - we can still debate the point from a hypothetical POV.

busiscoming2

Until I know the full story of what happened I refuse to make too much of a judgement.

If there were looked after children present, then it is unacceptable.

If he was a little sh*t and wouldn't toe the line then I am not against the occasional smack although a little surprised at having to give one to such an old child.

adouglasmhor

bitemebankers wrote: »

Legal, maybe. But not for too much longer, hopefully. Proportionate? No. Domestic violence is always completely unacceptable to me. It used to be legal to beat your spouse - that didn't make it any more morally acceptable.

I'm not "jumping the gun". I have a zero-tolerance position on violence and a make no apologies for it.

So many people go on about wanting a less violent society. Well, people, this is where it starts: at home. If you can't restrain yourself from hitting your nearest and dearest, there's really no hope for the rest of society.

You are jumping the gun, there has been no investigation or descision made yet.
So when a criminal is beating up an old lady in the street, how would you stop them? Harsh Language? Bribery?
I have seen people standing around watching or walking past when a woman was attacked in the street. I always wondered what sort of person they were, I have an idea now.