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  • JimmyTheWig
    JimmyTheWig Posts: 12,199 Forumite
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    How many times does someone have to be hit before you call it violence? I'm sure that if you were the one being hit, it would be a fairly low number.
    I think the problem is with the word "history" rather than the word "violence".
  • ValHaller
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    How many times does someone have to be hit before you call it violence?
    Quite clearly once for violence.

    But for "a history of violence", it has to be substantially more than once, although twice might begin to fit "history of violence".

    Quite frankly, you are beginning to look like what on slashdot they call an "insensitive clod", if you are confusing "violence" with "a history of violence". These are 2 somewhat different things.
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  • adouglasmhor
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    I think the problem is with the word "history" rather than the word "violence".

    I went out to a fancy dress ocassion dressed as a woman once, therefore I have a history of cross dressing.

    I was given morphine diacetate in hospital once so I have a history of heroin use.

    I think it's grammatically correct but a bit much to be honest.
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  • JimmyTheWig
    JimmyTheWig Posts: 12,199 Forumite
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    I think it's grammatically correct but a bit much to be honest.
    I agree. It implies (to most reasonable people) that it has been going on for some time, not just that it happened in the past.
  • tango
    tango Posts: 13,110 Forumite
    edited 27 March 2013 at 4:25PM
    I went out to a fancy dress ocassion dressed as a woman once, therefore I have a history of cross dressing.

    I was given morphine diacetate in hospital once so I have a history of heroin use.

    I think it's grammatically correct but a bit much to be honest.

    Some morphine would be handy to reduce the pain of reading certain posts. ))
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  • thorsoak
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    How do you know whether the slap was justified or not, sometimes the naughty step or grounding might not work.

    I know of no 13 year olds who would consider the naughty step as a punishment!
  • murrayfan_2
    murrayfan_2 Posts: 180 Forumite
    thorsoak wrote: »
    I know of no 13 year olds who would consider the naughty step as a punishment!

    or consider a slap from an adult as a suitable 'punishment' either.........
  • pigpen wrote: »
    Unless he had a mark which was obvious to the teacher it would not have been reported as it isn't against the law to smack a child.. so the mark was obvious, possibly the next day.. would you wish that on a minded child potentially???

    I'd look for another CM before all the other parents get the good one.

    Actually schools have a duty of care to report any disclosure of physical violence (and many other things) to at the very least the child protection officer. Doesn't matter if there was a mark.
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  • bitemebankers
    bitemebankers Posts: 1,688 Forumite
    ValHaller wrote: »
    Quite clearly once for violence.

    But for "a history of violence", it has to be substantially more than once, although twice might begin to fit "history of violence".

    I'm thinking in the legal sense. If the police were asked about someone who had a record for violence, they'd describe that person as having a history of violence.

    I see your point though. The term would be more closely associated with a pattern of behaviour. However, I can't be the only one who would assume that it was not the first time this woman had hit a child. It's merely the first time it's come to the attention of the authorities.
    "There may be a legal obligation to obey, but there will be no moral obligation to obey. When it comes to history, it will be the people who broke the law for freedom that will be remembered and honoured." --Rt. Hon. Tony Benn
  • Lance
    Lance Posts: 559 Forumite
    I think the fact he reported the matter to a teacher shows what kind of malicious little brat he is. "I was in me mums face and bi*ch slapped me so I grassed her up and she'll lose her job!" Let's hope the Social Services take action and take this poor child into a care home so he is safe from her and she can get on with her life.

    As for all the outraged luvvies on here swooning at the thought of a 13 year old boy, likely bigger than mum, being slapped by his mother no matter what he has done, whether she did it or not, I agree .... let's burn the witch! No wonder there is so much violence and disorder amongst kids today as they know nobody dare so much as touch them.
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