Child-minder suspended

fluffnutter

There you go. Yet another reason why you shouldn't wallop children. I wouldn't want someone looking after my kids who thinks it's OK to hit children, regardless of whether they're her own or not.

tango

aaroncaz wrote: »

As far as I know she's not denying it.

IMO it depends on the circumstances. What happened before the 'slap' . 13 year old boys can make you want to slap them ! But of course wanting and doing are two different things. If it was a one off , seems an over reaction. But maybe it has happened before ?

aaroncaz

fluffnutter wrote: »

There you go. Yet another reason why you shouldn't wallop children. I wouldn't want someone looking after my kids who thinks it's OK to hit children, regardless of whether they're her own or not.

I nor you know if it was one smack or one of many, I do know the child minder does have a rather lot of stress in her life at the moment, no excuse I know but it could account for one incident, but then again it could be something more serious, she has not said the details, would/should my friend ask for the details, dos she have the right to ask or should she wait for Ofsted to investigate and will Ofsted contact her?

tango

aaroncaz wrote: »

I nor you know if it was one smack or one of many, I do know the child minder does have a rather lot of stress in her life at the moment, no excuse I know but it could account for one incident, but then again it could be something more serious, she has not said the details, would/should my friend ask for the details, dos she have the right to ask or should she wait for Ofsted to investigate and will Ofsted contact her?

Not sure she will be given the details but she can always ask . The only advice I can give is to be truthful and honest . Good luck x

bitemebankers

Well this makes a change - a report about the system working for once! I certainly wouldn't want anyone with a history of violence looking after a child of mine. Fingers crossed Oftsted will make the ban permanent.

JimmyTheWig

Carl31 wrote: »

Theres disciplining your own child, and then disciplining others

Just because someone chooses a method for their own children, doesnt mean they will do it to all kids they come across.

Why is everything so dramatised these days?

I think the problem is that if the minded children see the minder hitting a child then there is an unstated assumption that that is what will happen to you if you step out of line.
So while the minded children haven't been hit they have, effectively, been threatened with it.

Amanda65

JimmyTheWig wrote: »

I think the problem is that if the minded children see the minder hitting a child then there is an unstated assumption that that is what will happen to you if you step out of line.
So while the minded children haven't been hit they have, effectively, been threatened with it.

If the minded children were there at the time. It could have happened later in the evening after they had left , at a weekend, or in the morning before they arrived. Unfortunately OP doesn't seem to have been given enough information by her friend for us to know.

bitemebankers wrote: »

I certainly wouldn't want anyone with a history of violence looking after a child of mine. Fingers crossed Oftsted will make the ban permanent.

I hardly think one slap means we can judge the childminder as being someone who 'has a history of violence'. I agree that the incident needs to be investigated but think at this stage, without the full information, that it a slightly OTT assumption.

ValHaller

JimmyTheWig wrote: »

I think the problem is that if the minded children see the minder hitting a child then there is an unstated assumption that that is what will happen to you if you step out of line.
So while the minded children haven't been hit they have, effectively, been threatened with it.

Once I worked out that the childminder had struck her own son rather than the friend's son ....

You can see that the route for the denouement was the son telling his teacher - it is far from certain that other minded children saw this.

I think ofsted need to take into account that if they de register this woman, they will be responsible for the lad getting the biggest walloping of his life. Unintended consequences .....

bitemebankers

Amanda65 wrote: »

I hardly think one slap means we can judge the childminder as being someone who 'has a history of violence'.

It's violence and it happened in the past tense, so it is a history of violence. In any case, someone who hits children certainly isn't fit to look after them, IMHO.

bitemebankers

ValHaller wrote: »

I think ofsted need to take into account that if they de register this woman, they will be responsible for the lad getting the biggest walloping of his life. Unintended consequences .....

I expect that social services will be keeping tabs on this woman for a while, to mitigate exactly that risk.