Nice people thread part 8 - worth the wait

zagubov

According to this article, there was a plan to introduce a chickenpox vaccine here, it was held back as it might encourage shingles in the elderly (there's a claim half of us will have had it at age 85). And now there's a shingles vaccine the plan was then held back again because the health authorities felt that the MMR refusers would fight back.

SingleSue

My ex husband had to have a rushed vaccination again chicken pox when James caught it the first time as he had never had chickenpox (over protective mother with her diabetic son) and had suppressed immunity.

Two blooming great injections it was....and he still got chickenpox.

Poor bloke was absolutely covered, never seen so many spots and he was miserable. He still offered to go to work to which his boss told him to go forth and multiply in no uncertain terms.

silvercar

zagubov wrote: »

According to this article, there was a plan to introduce a chickenpox vaccine here, it was held back as it might encourage shingles in the elderly (there's a claim half of us will have had it at age 85). And now there's a shingles vaccine the plan was then held back again because the health authorities felt that the MMR refusers would fight back.

Now would be the right time then.

Didn't Tony Blair refuse to say whether Leo had had the MMR?

Generali

silvercar wrote: »

Now would be the right time then.

Didn't Tony Blair refuse to say whether Leo had had the MMR?

To be fair, and I have very little time for Tony Blair, he made some very strong hints that Leo had had the MMR and his reason for not saying was sound: his kids were absolutely nobody else's business. Tony was voted into power not Leo.

It annoyed me to read about the 'MMR Controversy' as there was no controversy. MMR was always safe and never had a connection with autism. The only people who thought there was were the usual intellectually arrogant types. Loads of people in investment banking paid for separate jabs. I'm old enough to remember the whooping cough outbreak being reported as a result of another silly scare about the vaccine causing brain damage. The first symptom of whooping cough amongst the very young can be stopping breathing AIUI. Prolly quite a chance of brain damage there I would guess.

lostinrates

Generali wrote: »

To be fair, and I have very little time for Tony Blair, he made some very strong hints that Leo had had the MMR and his reason for not saying was sound: his kids were absolutely nobody else's business. Tony was voted into power not Leo.

It annoyed me to read about the 'MMR Controversy' as there was no controversy. MMR was always safe and never had a connection with autism. The only people who thought there was were the usual intellectually arrogant types. Loads of people in investment banking paid for separate jabs. I'm old enough to remember the whooping cough outbreak being reported as a result of another silly scare about the vaccine causing brain damage. The first symptom of whooping cough amongst the very young can be stopping breathing AIUI. Prolly quite a chance of brain damage there I would guess.

I didn't have whooping cough jab because my mother was scared off by the bad press. I did have whooping cough the disease though. I think I was two or three, but I remember some aspects of the recovery quite well. Lots of napping on the best sofa in the house once I was well enough to 'receive' people to visit. And my dog was allowed to sit on the sofa. My parents recall that actually the dog was a nightmare. He was fiercely protective and, he blamed them for each and every whoop of cough.

lostinrates

tomterm8 wrote: »

Nikki, yeah, that's right...

LIR, it goes without saying that as a woman trying for pregnancy you should get the MMR for rubella, because of the consequences if you get it during pregnancy.

Hubby needs it if he hasn't had mumps yet (mumps is not bad in children, it is in adult males).

Nikkister, it says ''The MMR vaccine can also be given on the NHS to certain adults who may need it including:'

If a treament is given on the NHS in a doctors surgery it is free.

Dh is going to call in to the surgery in person, with the print outs to clarify his position. Havering spoken about it he says its not that he minds paying its that other people will and shouldn't be turned away and not get it.


Tbc, I am not worried about the pregnancy issue, as we have accepted its not going to happen. It would be bloody brutal though, if it did and then I got rubella! It's just best to cover the bases I think.

lemonjelly

All this injections talk (I absolutely hate injections btw, & that is made worse by watching my diabetic father inject 2 and then later 4 times a day - glad he's fitted with a pump now!) reminds me of this:
http://www.badscience.net/2008/08/the-medias-mmr-hoax/

Great book. I really want to read Bad Pharma at some point too.

lostinrates

lemonjelly wrote: »

All this injections talk (I absolutely hate injections btw, & that is made worse by watching my diabetic father inject 2 and then later 4 times a day - glad he's fitted with a pump now!) reminds me of this:
http://www.badscience.net/2008/08/the-medias-mmr-hoax/

Great book. I really want to read Bad Pharma at some point too.

I don't mind injections but was surprised how hard I found jabbing special girl last year with some anti arthritic stuff was. I have become very, very soft.:o

LydiaJ

lostinrates wrote: »

Dh is going to call in to the surgery in person, with the print outs to clarify his position. Havering spoken about it he says its not that he minds paying its that other people will and shouldn't be turned away and not get it.

Tbc, I am not worried about the pregnancy issue, as we have accepted its not going to happen. It would be bloody brutal though, if it did and then I got rubella! It's just best to cover the bases I think.

Yes, best to cover the bases for that reason, and also because, while rubella is in itself usually a mild illness, in your current state of health you do not need any extra illnesses, however mild.

Foundinrates is doing a service to the community by complaining on behalf of those who are both less able to pay and less able to complain. Go foundinrates!

silvercar

lostinrates wrote: »

Dh is going to call in to the surgery in person, with the print outs to clarify his position. Havering spoken about it he says its not that he minds paying its that other people will and shouldn't be turned away and not get it.


Tbc, I am not worried about the pregnancy issue, as we have accepted its not going to happen. It would be bloody brutal though, if it did and then I got rubella! It's just best to cover the bases I think.

I suspect that, if they have the vaccine in stock, they will give it to fir without too much fuss. If it was a vaccine they had to specially order in to give to him to protect you, they may be more resistant.

If they are difficult, suggest they just write a prescription and that you will inject it yourself as you have animal experience, that will probably break down barriers.