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I think it's not worth doing BCG for adult (you'd have to do it privately) unless you are going to a high risk country. For children I think it is worth it if you are offered it.
Fc: As a rule most erotica is fairly tame...“The ideas of debtor and creditor as to what constitutes a good time never coincide.”
― P.G. Wodehouse, Love Among the Chickens0 -
I think the 9 needle thing was to test if children already had it and were now immune. Only those who didn't react to the needles get the BCG afterwards. Not everybody needs to get it.
I think the BCG leaves (or used to leave) a major scar so it might be possible to tell from the scar on the arm.
I think there's be a concern it could spread fastest in denser housing areas. We've already got the worst TB rate in Europe, focussed on Leicester.
I remember as a school kid people scratching the !!!!! test with needles to get a reaction showing!
I've got a big scar from the BCG, it took ages to heal.....I had no idea it was test for immunity. I learn something new everyday
Should my kids (19 + 25) have it or let it be?
Are you sure they weren't tested in school?
I would say its safer to get your kids done. If it is not prevalent in your area, kids these days travel far and wide and could easily visit an area where it is prevalent.I'm a Forum Ambassador on the housing, mortgages & student money saving boards. I volunteer to help get your forum questions answered and keep the forum running smoothly. Forum Ambassadors are not moderators and don't read every post. If you spot an illegal or inappropriate post then please report it to forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com (it's not part of my role to deal with this). Any views are mine and not the official line of MoneySavingExpert.com.0 -
Surely it was fowl?
:rotfl:Joking aside, sounds terrible. No wonder people say (or at least it they do in my head) that it is better to get chickenpox as a child.
I've heard that too, and while I haven't any proper data, anecdote seems to bear that out. I've certainly never met anyone who had chickenpox as an adult who didn't suffer badly with it.
The thing that I was annoyed about was realising that they could have given me piriton for the itching, but they didn't, when I saw the huge degree of relief that LNE got from piriton when he had chickenpox a few years after I did.Should my kids be vaccinated against TB? I have heard it's coming back but I also thought you were more likely to get it if you were undernourished/ had poor lungs (eg; asthma).
I've heard that too. TB is primarily a disease of those who are already in some way immune-compromised, I think. I'm sure I've read that it spreads fastest among the HIV+ population, and then it gets into the wider herd, where it's particularly dangerous in situations of overcrowding, poor living conditions, poor underlying health, inadequate access to health care, long term recreational drug use, and, as you mentioned, malnutrition and pre-existing lung disease.I think the BCG leaves (or used to leave) a major scar so it might be possible to tell from the scar on the arm.
Yes, the BCG scar is an unusual shape because of the multiple needles. I have a smallpox vaccine scar, but that looks different - one needle, but a much more significant ring of scar tissue round it than for other vaccines.Do you know anyone who's bereaved? Point them to https://www.AtaLoss.org which does for bereavement support what MSE does for financial services, providing links to support organisations relevant to the circumstances of the loss & the local area. (Link permitted by forum team)
Tyre performance in the wet deteriorates rapidly below about 3mm tread - change yours when they get dangerous, not just when they are nearly illegal (1.6mm).
Oh, and wear your seatbelt. My kids are only alive because they were wearing theirs when somebody else was driving in wet weather with worn tyres.0 -
I think it's not worth doing BCG for adult (you'd have to do it privately) unless you are going to a high risk country. For children I think it is worth it if you are offered it.
Fc: As a rule most erotica is fairly tame...
That may be.....but I couldn't say it to him as he would think erotica = !!!!!!.
I imagine the hard bit is varying the vocabulary enough so you're not repeating the same words throughout the piece.I remember as a school kid people scratching the !!!!! test with needles to get a reaction showing!
I've got a big scar from the BCG, it took ages to heal.
Are you sure they weren't tested in school?
I would say its safer to get your kids done. If it is not prevalent in your area, kids these days travel far and wide and could easily visit an area where it is prevalent.
...if the test is still the multi needle puncture gun, then I am sure 'no'. Maybe Rodean didn't do it. She did have the cervical cancer virus one.0 -
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I've heard that too, and while I haven't any proper data, anecdote seems to bear that out. I've certainly never met anyone who had chickenpox as an adult who didn't suffer badly with it.
The thing that I was annoyed about was realising that they could have given me piriton for the itching, but they didn't, when I saw the huge degree of relief that LNE got from piriton when he had chickenpox a few years after I did.
I've heard that too. TB is primarily a disease of those who are already in some way immune-compromised, I think. I'm sure I've read that it spreads fastest among the HIV+ population, and then it gets into the wider herd, where it's particularly dangerous in situations of overcrowding, poor living conditions, poor underlying health, inadequate access to health care, long term recreational drug use, and, as you mentioned, malnutrition and pre-existing lung disease.
Yes, the BCG scar is an unusual shape because of the multiple needles. I have a smallpox vaccine scar, but that looks different - one needle, but a much more significant ring of scar tissue round it than for other vaccines.
I think the scar is more significant as the injection is made into the skin (so you end up with a 'blister', rather than into a muscle? Haven't checked that though.
Think low vitamin d levels are also linked with susceptibility to TB too.0 -
That may be.....but I couldn't say it to him as he would think erotica = !!!!!!.
I imagine the hard bit is varying the vocabulary enough so you're not repeating the same words throughout the piece.
The thing is the biggest market for erotica tends to be 40-50 year old women who don't want !!!!!! but do want a romance story with some extra naughty but not too naughty sex.
Most erotica is probably simply romance fiction with a different marketing label.“The ideas of debtor and creditor as to what constitutes a good time never coincide.”
― P.G. Wodehouse, Love Among the Chickens0 -
DS was the part of the pilot group for MMR .....our borough was the pilot area but maybe it was just our estate. I know it was radical and new at the time and I didn't have any concerns.....however, it was a very poor estate and part of me wonders if us poor people (the 'they' who lived on 'those' type of estates) were experimented on?.
How old is your DS? I thought he was early 20s?...much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.0 -
I wasn't aware of a shingles vaccination until it was mentioned on here. I'm guessing (and it is definitely a guess) that as you get older, your 'immune memory' to chickenpox decreases. Chickenpox doesn't completely disappear, it hides in nerves, and can then 'reemerge' - I'm guessing that if this happens when you are younger, your body can still fight it off (so you wouldn't develop shingles and might not even know this is going on at all), but struggles with less firepower. I suppose that if you have a booster exposure (i.e. vaccination, which will be a smaller dose than if it re-emerged from a nerve/ perhaps a weaker strain etc) then you increase the number of memory cells, so can fight off 'shingles' better.
Contact with people who have chickenpox apparently helps protect against shingles.
My mother was told that there were 5 significant risk factors for shingles, and she had 4 of them when she got it in early March. She was over 60, had had cancer recently, recent chemotherapy, recent steroids. The only risk factor she lacked was having caught chickenpox when she was under the age of 1....much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.0 -
neverdespairgirl wrote: »My mother was told that there were 5 significant risk factors for shingles, and she had 4 of them when she got it in early March. She was over 60, had had cancer recently, recent chemotherapy, recent steroids. The only risk factor she lacked was having caught chickenpox when she was under the age of 1.
Thanks ndg. That makes sense. My mum is recovering from an awful bout of shingles that occurred over a year ago and left her with severe post herpetic neuralgia that was as bad as the shingles that lasted until very recently. She's recovering now. She too is over 60, has had cancer and was on steroids at the time. She has not had chemo as she was considered too weak. She may well have had chickenpox as a child because she doesn't remember having it as a child but similarly has never had it when the kids in the family have.Please stay safe in the sun and learn the A-E of melanoma: A = asymmetry, B = irregular borders, C= different colours, D= diameter, larger than 6mm, E = evolving, is your mole changing? Most moles are not cancerous, any doubts, please check next time you visit your GP.
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