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Nice people thread part 8 - worth the wait

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  • LydiaJ
    LydiaJ Posts: 8,083 Forumite
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    AIUI kids shouldn't go on PCs without a parent in the room - and they suggest the PC is put in the living room. This stops them watching violence/!!!!!! and being groomed by sweaty fat p4edos etc.

    It's not plausible to limit DS's computer usage to when I have time to be in the same room as him watching what he is doing. I have other things I need to do - housework, schoolwork etc, and generally having a life. His PC is downstairs, and like Gen's it's in a throughway, but I'm not always in the room where it is. He's 12. If he really wants to get access to "stuff", then he will be able to find a way round any restrictions I put on him. IT-savvy young people can be incredibly inventive. At present I am going down the line of discussing what sort of things he shouldn't watch and why, and as far as I can tell he's complying. I'm more concerned about what DD will do when she gets a little older - she's nowhere near as truthful, rule-abiding or trustworthy as he is, I'm afraid. So Gen, you have all my sympathy. :(

    What is this thing on youtube to cut out the worst stuff, please? I would like to install that for DS, but hadn't heard of it. I have a filter that blocks dodgy sites in general, but I have had to set it to allow youtube because he needs it for homework sometimes.

    Have the NP seen these videos for teaching internet safety to kids?

    Don't lie about your age: http://www.bbc.co.uk/cbbc/clips/p00nxznx
    Internet privacy settings: http://www.bbc.co.uk/cbbc/clips/p00nxznx
    Internet videos are forever: http://www.bbc.co.uk/cbbc/clips/p00nxznx
    Beware what you download: http://www.bbc.co.uk/cbbc/clips/p00nxznx
    Do you know anyone who's bereaved? Point them to https://www.AtaLoss.org which does for bereavement support what MSE does for financial services, providing links to support organisations relevant to the circumstances of the loss & the local area. (Link permitted by forum team)
    Tyre performance in the wet deteriorates rapidly below about 3mm tread - change yours when they get dangerous, not just when they are nearly illegal (1.6mm).
    Oh, and wear your seatbelt. My kids are only alive because they were wearing theirs when somebody else was driving in wet weather with worn tyres.
    :)
  • SingleSue
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    michaels wrote: »
    Can't remember if I posted this before. we noticed DS's epipens were expired so requested more. He needs 2 pens and we requested 2 to be held at his school (they won't take him otherwise), 2 for DW and 2 for me. We then got a call from the GP practice manager 'strongly suggesting' that we manage with 2 altogther between DW and me the unstated reason being cost to the fund-holding practice :(

    I can only get two at a time too...bit awkward when he is over two sites where both require one plus one for at home too. They moaned like mad when I asked for 3 last time, refused to do it, so I had to give one school one which was almost out of date to cover the time before I could get a newer one.
    We made it! All three boys have graduated, it's been hard work but it shows there is a possibility of a chance of normal (ish) life after a diagnosis (or two) of ASD. It's not been the easiest route but I am so glad I ignored everything and everyone and did my own therapies with them.
    Eldests' EDS diagnosis 4.5.10, mine 13.1.11 eekk - now having fun and games as a wheelchair user.
  • Generali
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    I hadn't seen those LydiaJ but I will have done by the end of tomorrow.

    I want to trust the kids but if they won't let me trust them then things will have to change.
  • lostinrates
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    edited 18 April 2013 at 12:58PM
    I think there is a big difference between primary age and secondary age. Lydia, your d's is particularly sensible too. If he were not you might have found you had to parent him differently: not least as you are so good at recognising their differences!

    There is no doubt, we cannot pretend the technology doesn't exist.

    As for the lying, yes, he needs to learn. I am reminded of the (much you ger) children they have shown in experiments trying to resist sweets/cake and be truthful about whether they managed it or not.
  • tomterm8
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    The problem is that even if you control the computers, these days most kids have mobile phones that are quite capable of getting them into trouble in the same way as a computer. And, you do want kids to have them because you want them to be able to call you if they are in trouble.
    “The ideas of debtor and creditor as to what constitutes a good time never coincide.”
    ― P.G. Wodehouse, Love Among the Chickens
  • LydiaJ
    LydiaJ Posts: 8,083 Forumite
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    tomterm8 wrote: »
    The problem is that even if you control the computers, these days most kids have mobile phones that are quite capable of getting them into trouble in the same way as a computer. And, you do want kids to have them because you want them to be able to call you if they are in trouble.

    Exactly. And even if you get your own child a non-smart phone, they will have friends who have ones that can get internet access.
    Do you know anyone who's bereaved? Point them to https://www.AtaLoss.org which does for bereavement support what MSE does for financial services, providing links to support organisations relevant to the circumstances of the loss & the local area. (Link permitted by forum team)
    Tyre performance in the wet deteriorates rapidly below about 3mm tread - change yours when they get dangerous, not just when they are nearly illegal (1.6mm).
    Oh, and wear your seatbelt. My kids are only alive because they were wearing theirs when somebody else was driving in wet weather with worn tyres.
    :)
  • SingleSue
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    zagubov wrote: »
    Quite. I'm pleased that vaccines are such a big part of the curriculum now. If people don't want to believe in moon landings, God help them but it won't put their lives at risk.

    If they belive tosh about disease prevention and avoidance then it could all get very Darwinian quite quickly.

    I used to teach people who worked with anthrax. When I asked how dangerous that was, somebody pointed out that the first sign of anthrax is usually death!:eek:

    We were not swayed by the Wakefield research....

    We discussed a possible link between the jab and what happened with youngest before we knew of any research, the reaction from youngest was so strong. This was further settled in our minds when middle had his booster and his behaviour got even worse....then we heard of the Wakefield research.

    We didn't listen to his research and then decide, we came to our own conclusions as to why a speaking normally, interested in the outside world child had changed to a completely non verbal, completely disinterested child with horrible (long lasting, not just a few weeks - he still has them now 14 years later) bowel complications shortly after his first MMR.

    As I have said, I don't think it causes autism in children on its own, rather that in susceptible children, it could make the symptoms more visible or trigger something that was laying dormant.

    That said, two of my boys have had the full compliment of jabs and youngest of course had the first MMR jab, so they are not without some protection (youngest at least didn't catch mumps from James on any of the 3 times he has had it). James would probably need to have another booster though as the two he had failed completely!

    It may be anecdotal but I can only go by my experience, who knows what happens in the body when you get a certain set of pre existing things in your genes, something that may not appear in 99.9% of the population. It probably is ok for the vast vast majority of children but for just those very small out of the norm children, it could be the thing that links all the dots together.
    We made it! All three boys have graduated, it's been hard work but it shows there is a possibility of a chance of normal (ish) life after a diagnosis (or two) of ASD. It's not been the easiest route but I am so glad I ignored everything and everyone and did my own therapies with them.
    Eldests' EDS diagnosis 4.5.10, mine 13.1.11 eekk - now having fun and games as a wheelchair user.
  • LydiaJ
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    edited 18 April 2013 at 1:03PM
    Generali wrote: »
    I hadn't seen those LydiaJ but I will have done by the end of tomorrow.

    I want to trust the kids but if they won't let me trust them then things will have to change.

    They are probably most useful for children who are already familiar with Horrible Histories. I was particularly impressed with them because my kids discovered them, watched them, found them funny, and came to show me and insist I watch them - so no need for me to make them watch them. :)
    Do you know anyone who's bereaved? Point them to https://www.AtaLoss.org which does for bereavement support what MSE does for financial services, providing links to support organisations relevant to the circumstances of the loss & the local area. (Link permitted by forum team)
    Tyre performance in the wet deteriorates rapidly below about 3mm tread - change yours when they get dangerous, not just when they are nearly illegal (1.6mm).
    Oh, and wear your seatbelt. My kids are only alive because they were wearing theirs when somebody else was driving in wet weather with worn tyres.
    :)
  • veryone needs to be inoculated
  • LydiaJ
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    dranf1976 wrote: »
    veryone needs to be inoculated

    Hello dranf

    Are you a real live person? If so, then welcome to the NPT :hello:
    Do you know anyone who's bereaved? Point them to https://www.AtaLoss.org which does for bereavement support what MSE does for financial services, providing links to support organisations relevant to the circumstances of the loss & the local area. (Link permitted by forum team)
    Tyre performance in the wet deteriorates rapidly below about 3mm tread - change yours when they get dangerous, not just when they are nearly illegal (1.6mm).
    Oh, and wear your seatbelt. My kids are only alive because they were wearing theirs when somebody else was driving in wet weather with worn tyres.
    :)
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