Nice people thread part 8 - worth the wait

neverdespairgirl

lostinrates wrote: »

Yep, it's crazy, both dh and I have had the 'exotic' jabs for travel! But probably not some basic childhood ones:rotfl:

Darling, that means you might catch boring old UK common illnesses!

I think it's a good idea to get up to date, even if you do have to fork out yourself.

lostinrates

neverdespairgirl wrote: »

Darling, that means you might catch boring old UK common illnesses!

I think it's a good idea to get up to date, even if you do have to fork out yourself.

I know! The ridiculousness of it tickles me. And yes, I think certainly private might be worth it. In a telephone appt today (i asked him to sort his out today while i am on a roll) with dh the surgery was telling dh that mumps wasn't that likely to cause serious testicular problems and I said why take any risks?

It also seems contrary to epidemic control measures that we are reminded often are important to not jab the unstuck willing to be pin cushions!

tomterm8

lostinrates wrote: »

Upshot of today is that if dh wants vacs he has to pay for them privately.

His uk records show some vacs in 81/82 but not the things like measles.

I'd ask for the doctor to write a letter specifically refusing the MMR jab, since you want to appeal the decision. He will cave, since MMR jabs are free for adults on the NHS since those jabbed between 1980 and 1990 might not have the mumps portion of the jab which is important.

Nikkster

LydiaJ wrote: »

I had chickenpox at 20. It was foul.

Surely it was fowl?

Joking aside, sounds terrible. No wonder people say (or at least it they do in my head) that it is better to get chickenpox as a child.

I wasn't aware of a shingles vaccination until it was mentioned on here. I'm guessing (and it is definitely a guess) that as you get older, your 'immune memory' to chickenpox decreases. Chickenpox doesn't completely disappear, it hides in nerves, and can then 'reemerge' - I'm guessing that if this happens when you are younger, your body can still fight it off (so you wouldn't develop shingles and might not even know this is going on at all), but struggles with less firepower. I suppose that if you have a booster exposure (i.e. vaccination, which will be a smaller dose than if it re-emerged from a nerve/ perhaps a weaker strain etc) then you increase the number of memory cells, so can fight off 'shingles' better.

lostinrates

tomterm8 wrote: »

I'd ask for the doctor to write a letter specifically refusing the MMR jab, since you want to appeal the decision. He will cave, since MMR jabs are free for adults on the NHS since those jabbed between 1980 and 1990 might not have the mumps portion of the jab which is important.

Seriously? They told us both (separately) the opposite today.

The rubella (which I am being blood tested to see if I need) is free because technically we are still trying to have a baby in so far as we do not use birth control yet have sex (and would be pleased to have a kid).

Is there a reference for this because rather than have them write a refusal presumably I could just show them it.

Having spoken to my mother again she thinks that I had everything (either disease or jab) but mumps and rubella. But she's not really a reliable source.

tomterm8

AFAIK the shingles jab isn't approved in the UK, but you can get it in the USA.

TB is the big one since it is slowly becoming resistant to antibiotics. The more resistance you have to it the better.

Nikkster

lostinrates wrote: »

Seriously? They told us both (separately) the opposite today.

The rubella (which I am being blood tested to see if I need) is free because technically we are still trying to have a baby in so far as we do not use birth control yet have sex (and would be pleased to have a kid).

Is there a reference for this because rather than have them write a refusal presumably I could just show them it.

Having spoken to my mother again she thinks that I had everything (either disease or jab) but mumps and rubella. But she's not really a reliable source.

From: http://www.nhs.uk/Conditions/vaccinations/Pages/mmr-vaccine.aspx
'The MMR vaccine can also be given on the NHS to certain adults who may need it including:
women planning pregnancy
people born between 1970 and 1979 and between 1980 and 1990
If you are a woman thinking about getting pregnant you may need to be vaccinated if you have low levels of rubella antibodies or you haven't had a rubella or MMR vaccination before.
People born between 1970 and 1979 who may have only been vaccinated against measles also need the MMR vaccine, as well as those born between 1980 and 1990 who may not be protected against mumps.
Check with your GP if you're not sure whether you've had rubella or MMR. If in doubt, go ahead and have the MMR vaccination, it won't harm you to have a second vaccination.'

Edit: doesn't say mention who should pay for it mind you

Nikkster

From: http://www.nhs.uk/Conditions/vaccinations/Pages/measles-outbreak-advice.aspx
'Will I have to pay for the MMR vaccination?

No, MMR vaccination is available to adults and children free on the NHS.'

Not sure whether that is only if you are sure you haven't had it before/ only had one dose etc

lostinrates

Nikkster wrote: »

From: http://www.nhs.uk/Conditions/vaccinations/Pages/measles-outbreak-advice.aspx
'Will I have to pay for the MMR vaccination?

No, MMR vaccination is available to adults and children free on the NHS.'

Not sure whether that is only if you are sure you haven't had it before/ only had one dose etc

Well, well.

Thank you.


( and still people wonder why I don't trust these people...:rotfl:)

tomterm8

Nikki, yeah, that's right...

LIR, it goes without saying that as a woman trying for pregnancy you should get the MMR for rubella, because of the consequences if you get it during pregnancy.

Hubby needs it if he hasn't had mumps yet (mumps is not bad in children, it is in adult males).

Nikkister, it says ''The MMR vaccine can also be given on the NHS to certain adults who may need it including:'

If a treament is given on the NHS in a doctors surgery it is free.