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*Nutella*

Marta, we don't have anything to sleep on in LO's room, but then we're lucky enough to have a third bedroom, so I stay there with her when she's not well and/or has a night when she just want cuddles. ..

Gillyx

Can really recommend MAM bottles, we love them. We had Dr Brown before those and the MAM are far superior, would recommend to anyone.

*Nutella*

Sammie, how is Noah doing? Been thinking of him - hope things improve very soon. Big ((hug)) x

morocha

im going to be the odd one, we used mam and J will not feed, she hated them so we use rarely dr brown and shes fine.

Ive booked an app to see an osteopath tomorrow, many people said to give them a try if ur baby seems unhappy/unsettled but dr can not find a reason...friends of mine say the results are great.
Ive came acrross some info and realized i have a high need baby , she fits right into that category.
Tomorrow we got for her hip scan.. she has one extra crease in her legs, im trying not to worry about this and think is nothing.

moneypenny21

Good luck tomorrow morocha

marta - glow in the dark dummies have revolutionised my nights

Has anyone used controlled crying? I'm sure I read recently on here someone did. I never wanted to use it but I'm feeling at a loss at what to do. Little one used to fall asleep anywhere, she now fights it and fights it and screams blue murder until she is rocked to sleep. She also now cries hysterically if she is perhaps bored and wants picking up. She has just been sitting in her bouncy chair and screamed until I picked her up. She is now merrily sitting on my knee quite happy.

I don't know what to do about the overtired screaming, I feel like we've regressed back to the early days where she needed coercing to sleep. She is five months now. The last month has been hard as she has definitely had the 4 month sleep regression - she has had the same amout of feeding in the day as usual but wakes up all night crying and 50% of the time she wont sleep unless she is fed. the other 50% she wants her dummy back which is fine, though she has also taken to clamping her lips shut to refuse the dummy, prefering to get hysterical instead. She is fine as soon as she is picked up.

It's quite draining, the relentless crying and unsettledness, obviously she is awake half the night so must be tired in the day (we certainly are), then she cries hysterically because she is overtired in the day. It's just a recurring cycle.

Don't know what to do at all but feel like we need to do something - parents suggested letting her cry it out but I'm not sure that's the right thing for us to do. I'm not sure what is the right thing but I know we need to do something.

She is great at going to sleep at night after her last bottle in her cot in the dark, try that in the day and she just screams wildly.

I'm even wondering if she is unwell in someway but there is nothing obvious - as I say she is fine when picked up, I've given her extra feeds in case it is hunger but nothing is working!

Anyone had anything similar and any solutions? Please help!
Yours Sincerely
Exhausted Moneypenny

Sammie_03

*Nutella* wrote: »

Sammie, how is Noah doing? Been thinking of him - hope things improve very soon. Big ((hug)) x

Thanks hun, he's a lot better today, he's been playing with his toys today which is fab as it means he's feeling better and he doesn't seem as fed up. I'm hoping he sleeps well tonight and continues to improve tomorrow.

It was my birthday today and the boys have me chocolates and roses which they bought with their own money
DP bought me a new purse, a yankee candle and money. I have over £200 to go shopping with so I'm happy I do have a bloody cold though so have been bunged up most of the day. We had a Chinese for dinner which was a nice treat too. I've been very lucky today.

X

moneypenny21

Happy Birthday Sammie, glad Noah is on the mend, still looks really itchy though Poor Boy! Hope you feel better soon to xx

Gillyx

Moneypenny we did do CC but welcome to my world, during the day is a nightmare for me at the moment he just squeals and screams and goes bonkers, I used to be able to put him in his cot and he'd zonk, not now and he's 15 months old

morocha

welcome to my world too, she is 3.5 ,months diference is that she never settled from her birth so sleep regression at 4 months will go unnoticed here... i have her in my arms literally all day and put to sleep gets up, sleeps in the pram, we get home, she gets up again.. last resource the osteopath tomorrow before i resign myself that this too shall pass in many months ahead lol,,,,

martafdz

Idk moneypenny, have you tried first more gentle sleep training? I thought the earlier you could start proper sleep training was 6 months. I'd read further about controlled crying, crying it out is not encouraged anymore because apparently increases cortisol in the brain and in adult age this might lead to difficulty dealing with stress, or something along the lines. Some research suggest it's dangerous to let young babies to cry it out because they learn they don't get a response and they might stop crying at night for other reasons, like hunger or overheating. I don't know much about controlled crying, though, but there are also other techniques like the pick up put down method, look for baby whisperer books, she claimed two weeks of constant training and perseverance would be enough. It might be a phase, everything is exciting and interesting for your baby. Have you got a bed time routine? And a nap routine? I take V to the bedroom after two hours of waking time if she has not shown clear signs of tiredness, I switch off lights, draw curtains, close doors, put the dummy and stay silent whilst I rock her. It used to take a long time but now she's down within 5-10 minutes. If I stay in the other room it takes me at least half an hour, she knows bedroom means sleep and relaxes. But you also know how hard it was before to make her fall asleep, she has improved slowly. Although I still move her into my bed at 5am and she has a feed before bedtime that often knocks her out. She won't fall asleep on her own yet, butit doesn't take long to make her fall asleep and if put her in the cot half asleep usually just falls asleep. In fact, she lately has been crying whilst being rocked because she wanted to be put in the cot and lay on her side with the arms around her eyes. Weird. Once I put her down, she moves into position and she's gone. The point I was trying to make before I derailed was that my lo used to fight every nap and sleep time, it took us almost an hour of rocking and walking around, and it wasn't too long ago. Now, however, she's better at that, not textbook, not perfect, but not a problem either, so I'll leave the sleep training for the time being. I bought a few books for sleep training through Amazon kindle / Google Books, I don't know if they can be lent, I've never seen an option, but if there's a way to send them your way, I'll do. For me, routine and sleeping cues gave me back my sanity. A few weeks ago I was googling "4 month old fights naps" and I found that it was a common issue and that it gets better within weeks. But if you are exhausted, I understand that you want some solution now, sleep deprivation is awful.

Gosh, I knew I forgot something before: I hope Noah gets better, poor thing, is he itchy?

Happy birthday Sammie
Well...happy birthdays, for the late one too :-/