MSE Newborn to 1 year (& beyond!) baby club 2

Sammie_03

Morning,

Yay for sleeping babies! :beer: (should be coffee)

I thought I was in for a rough night as Noah wasn't very happy yesterday but I'm pleased to report he slept through. I can hear him playing with Mickey Mouse so I take it he's awake now.

I'm off to meet up with a couple of netmums again today at the local play centre. katiechoc do you still meet up with the mums you have met from there?
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katiechoc_2

Glad Noah seems ok so far Sammie.

Yep I still see the mums I met on Netmums, although a lot of mums ive met with similar aged babies are heading back to work now.

silly_moo

I did a bit of reading before deciding whether to vaccinate my LO and what you have to remember is apart from viruses vaccines contain a lot of other nasties. I think I read somewhere they contain traces of rat poison :eek:

I did take him for the first 3 sets of jabs but may not bother with MMR. I had measles and mumps as a child and so did my friends and siblings and I'm not sure if I like the idea of stuffing my LO full of chemicals just so he can get common childhood illnesses out of the way.

In America they have a special organisation that deals with adverse effects of immunisations and I think they even pay out compensations. here is the link.

fluffnutter

silly_moo wrote: »

I did a bit of reading before deciding whether to vaccinate my LO and what you have to remember is apart from viruses vaccines contain a lot of other nasties. I think I read somewhere they contain traces of rat poison :eek:

I did take him for the first 3 sets of jabs but may not bother with MMR. I had measles and mumps as a child and so did my friends and siblings and I'm not sure if I like the idea of stuffing my LO full of chemicals just so he can get common childhood illnesses out of the way.

In America they have a special organisation that deals with adverse effects of immunisations and I think they even pay out compensations. here is the link.

I can't agree with you on any of your points. In fact, I feel quite angry. I find it shocking that you 'may not bother with MMR' and dismiss measles as a 'common childhood illness'. It's a killer. And mumps can render men sterile. The world is a far better place for having controlled these 'common childhood illnesses' through vaccination programmes. Do you know what devastation and misery diseases like smallpox, polio, diphtheria, whooping cough, measles etc. caused? Have you any idea how many children are still dying or are maimed for life because of these diseases (except for smallpox thankfully)? We are so lucky to live in a first world country with a first world approach to healthcare.

Honestly, your post is utterly, utterly ignorant and scare-mongering and I urge everyone reading to find out the facts, not the hysterical conspiracies such as you promote.

dizziblonde

Thanks for the Erin birthday wishes - the day's kind of knocked me a tad reliving the crap of her birth but she seems to have had a whale of a time opening presents (we've yet to brave the cake).

As for MMR/jabs - I want to defer ours till she's the right age on adjusted age - seems an awful lot to throw at an immune system in one go which I'm uncomfortable with.

Sammie_03

fluffnutter wrote: »

We are so lucky to live in a first world country with a first world approach to healthcare.

Very good point and So true.

Most of my mummy friends are back at work or have older kids so I'm hoping to meet some new mummy friends too.
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Sammie_03

What birthday cake has she got dizzi?
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fluffnutter

Sammie_03 wrote: »

Very good point and So true.

Most of my mummy friends are back at work or have older kids so I'm hoping to meet some new mummy friends too.
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Hey, you're meeting me on the 23rd! :cool:

Although I tend to disappoint in real life. People can't get over HOW OLD I AM.

dizziblonde

Sammie_03 wrote: »

What birthday cake has she got dizzi?
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Based on the highly scientific principle that mum and dad will be eating most of it... the Tesco caterpillar one!

turtlemoose

It's not the autism risk I'm concerned about. And there have been several people who have been compensated for their vaccine damaged children - its just fact.

I am quite strongly pro-vaccination - and I actually think those who chose not to vaccinate at all are putting others at risk, therefore I think schools, nurseries etc should have the option to refuse those who are unvaccinated.

What I'm not pro of though, is the lack of information. The NHS website says no country recommends single vaccines - but Japan does, a pretty advanced country with a large population. The NHS says there are very few side affects (swollen glands and measles like spots) - how about temperature, convulsions, encephalitis (infection and swelling of the brain) - those are all real risks but my god you have to dig deep to find that admitted by the NHS.

Did you know doctors surgeries get a bonus if 90% of their children are vaccinated fully?

If it was less money driven, and the information was more open, I would be less mistrustful.