Why Is There Not Much Help For Binge Eating Disorder (and if there is, where is it?)

Jox

I've never made it but here's a recipe for beef jerky

http://artofmanliness.com/2012/11/20/how-to-make-the-best-beef-jerky-in-the-world/

You can make it in the oven with the door kept open a bit or maybe you can get a dehydrator?

I used to be interested in the raw food movement and there were always recommendations to get a dehydrator to make dried fruit and vegetable crisps and crackers.

Skymist

Jox wrote: »

You can make it in the oven with the door kept open a bit or maybe you can get a dehydrator?

I used to be interested in the raw food movement and there were always recommendations to get a dehydrator to make dried fruit and vegetable crisps and crackers.

I used to be on the same forum as Lex Rooker, an American guy and raw Paleo eater, who makes his own jerky, and here is his manual for making a VERY CHEAP dehydrator, which can be used for meat, herbs and fruit....

http://www.rawpaleodiet.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/JerkyDrierInstructions.pdf

The instructions are very easy to follow, with loads of photos showing how to do it, so if you're feeling adventurous, it's VERY MSE

S

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Awesome, I eat semi-Paleo so that rocks! Thank you!

HBS x

sophlowe45

I think i need to keep everything simple and calm. My mind feels a lot calmer today.

I came home last night and attempted to cook at midnight as I knew the fresh stuff in the fridge was on the verge of going bad.

Usually if I open a packet of salad, spinach, diced onions etc. and it smells a bit funny I rinse it in water and then it smells ok, but is this bad?

I read another thread where someone wanted to switch off the oven, pick her partner up from the train station, come home and finish off cooking the meal in the oven, but the responses seemed to indicate this was not good.

I don't understand what is bad in terms of food hygiene generally, can anyone help? I don't want to cook meat for that reason. Plus, harder to find good quality meat. Again, this is why the microwave method may be good for me.

I cooked ready bought diced onions, added garlic, ginger and chilli from a jar, seems impossible to get it to cook on a electric hob. I added tinned tomatoes, Quorn mince, right at the end I added two cans of beans, red kidney beans and another type. Served with rice noodles. It does not taste nice at all.

Its a huge amount though, how long will it keep in the fridge? I think I eat gone off food as I will carry on eating it for 3-4 days and the taste is different as the days go by.

Still wishing we could take pills instead of food every day several times a day.

Fire_Fox

sophlowe45 wrote: »

I think i need to keep everything simple and calm. My mind feels a lot calmer today.

I came home last night and attempted to cook at midnight as I knew the fresh stuff in the fridge was on the verge of going bad.

Usually if I open a packet of salad, spinach, diced onions etc. and it smells a bit funny I rinse it in water and then it smells ok, but is this bad?

I read another thread where someone wanted to switch off the oven, pick her partner up from the train station, come home and finish off cooking the meal in the oven, but the responses seemed to indicate this was not good.

I don't understand what is bad in terms of food hygiene generally, can anyone help? I don't want to cook meat for that reason. Plus, harder to find good quality meat. Again, this is why the microwave method may be good for me.

I cooked ready bought diced onions, added garlic, ginger and chilli from a jar, seems impossible to get it to cook on a electric hob. I added tinned tomatoes, Quorn mince, right at the end I added two cans of beans, red kidney beans and another type. Served with rice noodles. It does not taste nice at all.

Its a huge amount though, how long will it keep in the fridge? I think I eat gone off food as I will carry on eating it for 3-4 days and the taste is different as the days go by.

Still wishing we could take pills instead of food every day several times a day.

Some meats are much higher risk for bugs than others. Undercooked chicken and shellfish are particularly high risk, but actually so is cooked rice. If food sits around at room temperature or above that is ideal conditions for bacteria to grow, the sort of bacteria that like to harm us often like body temperature 37C but will grow slower at lower temperatures.

You can kill many (but not all) bacteria simply by thoroughly reheating the food before you eat it, you could get a meat thermometer. Also many meats change colour and texture when they are cooked. Mince is an easy one to cook thoroughly, the pieces are small and the surface area large so heat gets into the centre quickly. A whole chicken or joint in the oven is a big piece so takes much longer to cook to the centre, you definitely would not want to leave that half cooked.

But anything will cook thoroughly if you use the long-and-slow method. Honestly buy a slow cooker: you can chuck everything in raw if you don't want to fry off the meat, leave for hours and you have a tasty and safely cooked meal. Limited washing and you don't want top quality meat, it doesn't give the best flavour or texture. I used to know someone who did much the same with a Bolognese sauce in an oven proof dish, just bunged it all in raw. Microwaved meat is rarely nice.

Quorn mince is not going to give much of a nice flavour or texture, I don't think I'd add two cans of beans as they are not that tasty either. You'd at least want some meat stock or umami (savoury) flavour if you are vegetarian. Meridian no salt yeast extract, Natex reduced salt yeast extract, Marigold liquid aminos for example. Why ginger and tomatoes together, that seemed more of a chilli con carne which is usually spiced with cumin?

Some foods do taste different on day two or three as the flavours meld together - stews and curries often taste better. Should keep three to four days fine as long as you refrigerated as soon as it cooled from the first cooking. Split into portions, only reheat the part you intend to eat.

Do you have a Jamie Oliver 'Ministry of Food' in your area? I believe the cookery classes are free or cheap. Otherwise start using recipes, maybe get student/ beginners/ 'for dummies' books from the library.

oopsadaisydoddle

Grrr! Didn't get out for my run. DS has had awful diarrhoea today so have been unable to leave him with eldest DS.

DH is away tomorrow with work so am going to go in the morning instead as he doesn't have to leave until lunch. Feel a bit bleurggh as have been stuck in with the little DS. We have not dared venture anywhere!

Been grazing all day as well albeit on ok things. Had smoked mackerel and salad and vine ripened toms for lunch which was lovely at the time but the mackerel has been repeating on me something rotten!

System

oopsadaisydoddle wrote: »

Had smoked mackerel and salad and vine ripened toms for lunch

very healthy meal 10/10 in terms of health

satchmo1

Hi

I'm glad to see you've carried on using your thread, the nay-sayers get fed up after a while!

My DH and I decided to make a life-style change in February last year. It was hard getting family to understand, but I used the stuck record method of just repeating that I wasn't on a diet, I had changed my life-style in order to become and remain healthy. Having been diagnosed with diabetes, and having suffered IBS for years, I overcame both by cutting out white bread/rice/pasta, and tbh going over to a low carb life-style.

A site called SparkPeople has been my go-to source of tracking food and exercise. http://www.sparkpeople.com/myspark/tell_a_friend.asp
It doesn't cost a thing, and has an eating plan for managing diabetes. Preparing a huge salad for lunch at work in the evening has been a huge help. Substituting masses of veg instead of starchy items such as potatoes/rice/pasta keeps hunger at bay. Always having fruit or crudites handy to have instead of sugary snacks helps.

I'm not a saint, and SparkPeople helps me monitor my intake so that I know how far off track I've gone, and helps me bring myself back.

Hope that helps. I haven't read every post, so I don't know if anyone else is a fan or has suggested it.

Jox

Soph, keep it simple if you can, a protein, a carb and salad maybe?

It's hard when you're cooking for one (if you are?) because there's always left over food, even though it's me and my hubby sometimes we eat different foods and then mine goes to waste if I can't finish it in a few days. He hates to eat the same thing 2 days in a row, whereas I don't mind repetitive meals if they are really tasty!

I like steamed veg like brocolli, sweet potato, carrots, courgettes and rice or couscous and hummus with a protein (like meat, fish, eggs, cheese, beans). I could eat that everyday. I've got one of those cheap steamers from Argos that you plug in and set the timer for 10 mins or so. Or you can steam on the hob

Couscous with a few raisins mixed in is lovely.

I love avocados. My dad used to make avocado and tuna and I would turn my nose up at it, now I like it too.

I make a vegetable sort of soup with chopped onion, garlic, vegetables like carrots, celery, red pepper, sweet potato, add a tin of chopped tomatoes (or cut up a tomato), add beans like butter beans or chickpeas, simmer away in a pint of water with a stock cube and some dried herbs. Even a bit of cinnamon. It's so tasty and an easy way to get lots of portions of veg.

It can overwhelming, all the different nutritional information, the shopping, thinking / worrying about whether to get organic food or not, wondering what's in the food we're eating, the expense, getting it home and figuring out what to make and then chucking away the food we didn't have time to eat!

We've got to make it simple for ourselves (I'm giving myself a little pep talk here too )

oopsadaisydoddle

Jox wrote: »

Soph, keep it simple if you can, a protein, a carb and salad maybe?

It's hard when you're cooking for one (if you are?) because there's always left over food, even though it's me and my hubby sometimes we eat different foods and then mine goes to waste if I can't finish it in a few days. He hates to eat the same thing 2 days in a row, whereas I don't mind repetitive meals if they are really tasty!

I like steamed veg like brocolli, sweet potato, carrots, courgettes and rice or couscous and hummus with a protein (like meat, fish, eggs, cheese, beans). I could eat that everyday. I've got one of those cheap steamers from Argos that you plug in and set the timer for 10 mins or so. Or you can steam on the hob

Couscous with a few raisins mixed in is lovely.

I love avocados. My dad used to make avocado and tuna and I would turn my nose up at it, now I like it too.

I make a vegetable sort of soup with chopped onion, garlic, vegetables like carrots, celery, red pepper, sweet potato, add a tin of chopped tomatoes (or cut up a tomato), add beans like butter beans or chickpeas, simmer away in a pint of water with a stock cube and some dried herbs. Even a bit of cinnamon. It's so tasty and an easy way to get lots of portions of veg.

It can overwhelming, all the different nutritional information, the shopping, thinking / worrying about whether to get organic food or not, wondering what's in the food we're eating, the expense, getting it home and figuring out what to make and then chucking away the food we didn't have time to eat!

We've got to make it simple for ourselves (I'm giving myself a little pep talk here too )

Totally agree with it being overwhelming - there are so many different opinions on things, it's hard to know what's best for us as individuals. I also agree about the shopping/cooking/wasting food.

I definitely think we should all do what's best for us individually and one step at a time too. What's best for one might not be the best for others. At least if we use this thread as a sounding board/dumping ground or whatever, then it might help.

Soph is a great example - asking questions about cooking, preparing, keeping food. Some of us already know but just by asking those questions is enabling her to takes steps towards the things she wants.

I suppose it is like that for all of us - we should just take one day at a time. We'll all have bad days, but we'll have to learn to 'get over them' (for want of a better phrase) so that they don't ruin things long term.