Cameron get's his reduction in the EU budget.

Mr._Pricklepants

MS1950 wrote: »

http://www.londonlovesbusiness.com/business-news/politics/meps-reject-eu-budget-cut-agreed-by-cameron-and-national-leaders/4995.article

As expected.

Thread title can be changed from

Cameron get's his reduction in the EU budget.

to :

Cameron get's nothing, but pleases Tory backbench with a bit of posturing.

wotsthat

Graham_Devon wrote: »

Well let's hope they vote it down, by god, Cameron can't be seen to have cracked this nut.

Are people seriously looking for any morsal of hope that he may fail? Still?

http://www.londonlovesbusiness.com/business-news/politics/meps-reject-eu-budget-cut-agreed-by-cameron-and-national-leaders/4995.article

European Parliamentarians have voted against an EU budget deal struck by national leaders in February.

506 MEPs voted for a resolution to reject plans agreed at the February’s European Council meeting, with 161 MEPs opposing and 23 abstaining. The agreement in February would have seen EU spending cut by £30bn over the next seven years.

IronWolf

It's a non-binding resolution. Nice try though.

Graham_Devon

Yay for the EU nicking more of our money.

Yay that our prime minister is defeated.

I say yay for the referendum.

HAMISH_MCTAVISH

Graham_Devon wrote: »

Yay for the EU nicking more of our money.

Yay that our prime minister is defeated.

I say yay for the referendum.

I thought you were all in favour of democracy Graham?

Here we have elected MEP's overturning the negotiations masterminded by the "unelected Brussels bureaucracy".

I wonder how UKIP voted? :rotfl:

Graham_Devon

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

I thought you were all in favour of democracy Graham?

Here we have elected MEP's overturning the negotiations masterminded by the "unelected Brussels bureaucracy".

I wonder how UKIP voted? :rotfl:

Sorry?

You should worry Hamish. This isn't helping your case to stay in the EU. This is helping the case of the referendum and UKIP.

Thrugelmir

Originally Posted by MS1950
Read my two posts again. I was reporting what I found to be surprising – that "The leader of the Conservative group of MEPs ...said on Radio 5 that he expects it to be defeated in the European Parliament" – surprised in what he said, when he said it (just after the announcement of the budget agreement), and the matter of fact way he said it.

It was not said as some sort of call to arms to stop ‘jonny foreigner’ conspiring to snatch back ‘our’ victory – but as what seemed to be a sober assessment that the Parliament would almost certainly defeat the budget agreement.

and this is why.........

They insisted that unpaid bills from 2012 need to be settled before concluding negotiations on the EU’s future budget and called for an undertaking from the European Council that all 2013 bills would be paid in 2013, so there is no “deficit” rolling over into the future budgetary plans.

Read the article in full next time.

MS1950

Thrugelmir wrote: »

and this is why.........



Read the article in full next time.

I'm not really sure what your point is or what your little 'smiley' is all about?

I read the article (carefully) through before posting and I didn't offer a opinion as to 'why' the EU Parliament voted down the budget - but if it is simply to avoid a 'rolling over' of the 2012 deficit then it's difficult to understand why Tory MEP Daniel Hannan felt the need to play down the importance of the MEPs’ vote, saying “they’ll chicken out when the moment comes” (?).

"506 MEPs voted for a resolution to reject plans agreed at the February’s European Council meeting, with 161 MEPs opposing and 23 abstaining" - it seems unlikely that all 506 had the same motive, but I suspect that the quoted opinion of European Parliament President Martin Schulz (at the end of the article) will turn out to be most representative:

“Savings made in the EU budget are savings made in the wrong place, because the EU budget is one of the most powerful sources of investment in Europe, a source of investment which people now need more than ever. We are talking about massive real cuts. I don’t know if this can be described as realistic financial planning.”

And this seems to be supported by clause 4 of the resolution passed today:

“The European Parliament…..

Reiterates the view that the MFF for 2014-2020 should ensure the successful implementation of the Europe 2020 strategy and endow the EU with the necessary means to recover from the crisis and come out stronger; stresses, therefore, the importance of substantially increasing its investments in innovation, research and development, infrastructure and youth, meeting the EU’s climate change and energy objectives, improving education levels and promoting social inclusion, while fulfilling its international commitments”


http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?type=MOTION&reference=B7-2013-0129&language=EN

HAMISH_MCTAVISH

Graham_Devon wrote: »

Sorry?.

How do you think UKIP voted?

And I take it you're now against democracy when you don't like the results?

HAMISH_MCTAVISH

Graham, here's a clue.....

UKIP MEPs voted against the proposed EU budget cuts today

Why do you think such shallow political ploys increase their chances of winning a referendum?

Are we supposed to reward them for overturning Cameron's negotiated cuts? :rotfl: