what are my rights pls. dont want to get the police involved

dacouch

Planning permission for commercial premises normally deliberately limits the available parking spaces to a lower number than required in an attempt to persuade the employees to use public transport or walking etc.

steve-L

dacouch wrote: »

Planning permission for commercial premises normally deliberately limits the available parking spaces to a lower number than required in an attempt to persuade the employees to use public transport or walking etc.

It's this sort of backwards legislation that makes me wonder if the people making it live in the real world!

Surely, the way to get people to use public transport is by making it practical and affordable.....

My present usual commute is 25 minutes by car or 2 hours+ by public transport or a 4 hour walk ONE WAY (according to google maps) and the cost is £26 by public transport (both ways) vs £2 by car (both ways)

My other regular commute is 45 mins by car (£3 both ways), 2h50 public transport (at £40/day) 1h30 (at £70/day) or 7h20 walk ONE WAY

Does anyone in Westminster seriously think I would walk 14h/day to from work? I guess not which leaves the alternatives....

Why would I pay £70/day (£350/week - £1400/month vs £120 in diesel) to have DOUBLE the journey time, freeze my !!! off in winter waiting for several buses/trains? So as not to inconvenience someone with parking on their road because they have limited parking?

Not to mention leaving home before my kid wakes up and getting home after he's in bed? To then get home and get a bus to sainsbury's £4 and 30 minutes (google maps) vs drive past on the way home (12 minutes cost 10p)

:cool:

Ziggazee

Situations like this really wind me up. I have the exact same thing happening when I park for work. I have to park on the public road, along with hundreds of other staff, as there is nowhere else to park. The residents really don't like it, but as I say, I have no choice. I can't use public transport due to the time/cost involved.
People do not own the road outside their property. As long as I pay my road tax then I will damn well park where I want. I wonder where all these residents park when they go to work??

timbo58

funnily enough after writing my 1st post a chap came into our office in the morning demanding to know who had parked outside his house -residential street on an estate which has a very large industrial estate (which was there before the houses), it was one of our staff who parked in a layby.
The member of staff moved their car to avoid a confrontation, however it really is crap IMHO when someone with a perfectly legitimate reason can't park their perfectly legal car in any position it is safe to do so.
The residential area was there long after the industrial estate and he was parked in a small layby !!!!!!.

The fear is not that the parker is doing anything wrong but that the person annoyed by non residential parking will cause damage to that car.

dacouch

steve-L wrote: »

It's this sort of backwards legislation that makes me wonder if the people making it live in the real world!

Surely, the way to get people to use public transport is by making it practical and affordable.....

My present usual commute is 25 minutes by car or 2 hours+ by public transport or a 4 hour walk ONE WAY (according to google maps) and the cost is £26 by public transport (both ways) vs £2 by car (both ways)

My other regular commute is 45 mins by car (£3 both ways), 2h50 public transport (at £40/day) 1h30 (at £70/day) or 7h20 walk ONE WAY

Does anyone in Westminster seriously think I would walk 14h/day to from work? I guess not which leaves the alternatives....

Why would I pay £70/day (£350/week - £1400/month vs £120 in diesel) to have DOUBLE the journey time, freeze my !!! off in winter waiting for several buses/trains? So as not to inconvenience someone with parking on their road because they have limited parking?

Not to mention leaving home before my kid wakes up and getting home after he's in bed? To then get home and get a bus to sainsbury's £4 and 30 minutes (google maps) vs drive past on the way home (12 minutes cost 10p)

:cool:

My friend used to work in a council highways department and was charged with road design and signage. His approach was that it often was best to leave it as it was.

His colleagues preferred to justify their jobs with coming up with complex solutions which cost tens of thousands.

He also mentioned that the councils had a dilemma with speed humps as they discovered that people would brake heavily before the speed humps and then accelerate to the next speed hump which increased the polution and fuel use considerably.

I heard a good story on MSE some time ago about someone who had a similar problem with their neighboor constantly complaining about parking outside his house. The contributer lived in a big shared house and they each threw in £50, bought the scruffiest road legal car they could find (Metro), taxed and insured it and parked it outside his house for an entire year!

steve-L

Ziggazee wrote: »

Situations like this really wind me up. I have the exact same thing happening when I park for work. I have to park on the public road, along with hundreds of other staff, as there is nowhere else to park. The residents really don't like it, but as I say, I have no choice. I can't use public transport due to the time/cost involved.
People do not own the road outside their property. As long as I pay my road tax then I will damn well park where I want. I wonder where all these residents park when they go to work??

Hmmm.... and why it bothers them someone parking outside THEIR house when they are at work?

Of course .... it seems if they are there to hassle people arriving to park for work/college then they have nothing better to do ... like go to work themselves.... ????

steve-L

dacouch wrote: »

My friend used to work in a council highways department and was charged with road design and signage. His approach was that it often was best to leave it as it was.

His colleagues preferred to justify their jobs with coming up with complex solutions which cost tens of thousands.

:rotfl:

He also mentioned that the councils had a dilemma with speed humps as they discovered that people would brake heavily before the speed humps and then accelerate to the next speed hump which increased the polution and fuel use considerably.

Speed Bumps and Traffic Lights are in a weird place in legislation.
Until about 5-6 years ago (forget the exact date) Official Government advice for councils for traffic lights was to position and time them in order to use the MAXIMUM amount of fuel ...

This was advice, not compulsory....

The same goes for speed bumps, they were mainly installed in an ERA where Fuel REVENUE was the driver not emissions.

Ignore even the safety aspect that a few people accelerating between speedbumps creates a bigger safety problem than everyone driving at 30... (even 30ish)

Now we have speedbumps and traffic lights POSITIONED to burn fuel, cause pollution in an ERA where these are apparently discouraged.

I go back to Westminster's representation and a group of people passing Acts that ALL get to claim milage based on the biggest engine they can find .... MANY of whom don't have on-street parking issues as their drive is a mile long or they have a driver pick them up each morning.

If they even take the tube they have their own private entry/exit...yet when was the last time you saw any transport minister on the tube?

We even have a London Mayor who doesn't believe that the Road Traffic act applies to him on a bicycle.....

greenface

Steve-L Where do you get these amazing snippits of information . Can you pop up a little linky to back this up. Thanx

Hadrian

network wrote: »

i would do but there a few places to park.

[Bennifred Why don't you want to get the police involved? That is exactly what you should do! These people should not be allowed to get away with the aggresion and intimidation - report them.]

Any threatening behaviour within arms length is legally an assault.

Jamie_Carter

Coupon-mad wrote: »

So you leave the car there all day? Have to say that I live in a street plagued by idiots like that too. I can't stand it and although I know it means nothing I have been known to leave sarky notes on the car windscreens telling them to clear off.
You have no idea how annoying it is to see people arriving in your road and swanning off elsewhere all day like your road is their personal car park.

Why can't you park where you are at college? Does it have no car park?

Sorry, but I have to say that it sounds like you are part of the problem.

If it is a public road with no parking restrictions, then it isn't just 'your road', it is for the use of any vehicle that is allowed to legally park there.

If you like to have your own parking space, then buy a house with a drive, as you have no exclusive rights over public roads, no matter how close to your house it is.