what are my rights pls. dont want to get the police involved

JQ.

Personally, I'd just park somewhere else. There are some weird people in this world, it's far simpler to avoid them than try and meet them head on.

Yes, technically the OP is correct, but why put yourself through this every day. And how is escalating the issue going to solve the problem?

Teresa_Green

JQ. wrote: »

how is escalating the issue going to solve the problem?

I understand what you are saying too, however avoiding it is not going to solve it either, for anyone, just leave it for someone else.

Therefore the situation is potentially left to escalate unhindered anyway, but that's "OK" as does not show up on the database at Plod HQ.

Cynical, who me?

brat

There are lots of petty parking arguments like this that end up escalating to a significant level, whether it's poor parking outside primary school at drop off/pick up time, or commuters parking in a residential street. It does anger many local residents that their quiet cul-de-sac is being invaded by commuters parking their cars on pavements often preventing the home owner from the parking they might expect outside their home on their return from work.

Ado was quite right to attempt to mediate. It often helps to speak to both parties to try to soften attitudes before they get out of hand.
Ado would know that there's nothing s/he can do legally to enforce a situation, but could point out the consequences to the antagonists if they are considering taking the law into their own hands.

Ultimately, and unsatisfactorily, a solution that is used in some of the more central residential areas these days is residents parking permits.

mattyprice4004

Coupon-mad wrote: »

So you leave the car there all day? Have to say that I live in a street plagued by idiots like that too. I can't stand it and although I know it means nothing I have been known to leave sarky notes on the car windscreens telling them to clear off.

You have no idea how annoying it is to see people arriving in your road and swanning off elsewhere all day like your road is their personal car park.

Why can't you park where you are at college? Does it have no car park?

Bahaha, are you for real? I'll park where I like, thanks.

You see that small disc in the corner of my windscreen? That means I'll park anywhere that's legal, and if the 'neighbourhood police' such as yourself decide to have a pop, you'll get it back in spades.

Used to live next door to someone who took issue with me parking outside his house, seriously get a grip. It's a road, people are going to park there. Don't like it? Move somewhere with a really, really long driveway.

steve-L

brat wrote: »

but could point out the potentialconsequences to the antagonists if they are considering taking the law into their own hands.

Unfortunately it's probably a bluff and they know it!
They (unfortunately) know no-one is going to sit outside their drive all day waiting to catch them scratch the car or pour brake fluid over the bonnet. If they are going to, they will just do it and then deny any involvement even though you know it was them....

Ultimately, and unsatisfactorily, a solution that is used in some of the more central residential areas these days is residents parking permits.

It's a shame this isn't implemented on a finer grained basis!

i.e. Mr & Mrs' Grumpy cause hassle to drivers just trying to park somewhere legal so they can go to work/college/catch a train.... so Mr & Mrs' Grumpy get a 'residents only' outside their house only....

Then when they have visitors their visitors can all get PCN's...
:rotfl:

brat

steve-L wrote: »

Unfortunately it's probably a bluff and they know it!

They (unfortunately) know no-one is going to sit outside their drive all day waiting to catch them scratch the car or pour brake fluid over the bonnet. If they are going to, they will just do it and then deny any involvement even though you know it was them....

Quite possibly, but then it's perhaps prudent to make the parker aware of the limitations of the thin blue line.

steve-L wrote: »

It's a shame this [residents parking permit scheme] isn't implemented on a finer grained basis!

i.e. Mr & Mrs' Grumpy cause hassle to drivers just trying to park somewhere legal so they can go to work/college/catch a train.... so Mr & Mrs' Grumpy get a 'residents only' outside their house only....

Then when they have visitors their visitors can all get PCN's...
:rotfl:

It's not easy or satisfactory I know, but some issues can get very heated, and this often seems the only possible remedy. My sister lives in a large village close to a large Capita office. It has recently increased its staff numbers but chose not to expand its car park, so commuters parked their cars everywhere in the village. Consequently many residents who normally parked their car on the road were unable to do this any more and had to park some distance from their house. I know that many commuter cars were vandalised.
The situation seems to have calmed a little now because Capita, perhaps as a consequence of much bad feeling within the village, have asked their staff to park considerately. Additionally, some locals have put signs on their garden walls asking people not to park there.
Many employees just ignore the wishes of the company and the locals and continue to park in the residential streets, but it's nowhere near as bad as it got a few years ago.

Takeaway_Addict

network wrote: »

i would do but there a few places to park.

[Bennifred Why don't you want to get the police involved? That is exactly what you should do! These people should not be allowed to get away with the aggresion and intimidation - report them.]

I agree this man should not be allowed to be aggressive to me. However he is just the type of middle class male that the police will side with and i am a single parent trying to get through college. The world is not a fair place.

In a word....bolllox, this woe is me paragraph makes me think something else is a foot.

daveyjp

Hidden camera with sound, report any assault (which only has to be a verbal threat) to the police.

steve-L

brat wrote: »

It's not easy or satisfactory I know, but some issues can get very heated, and this often seems the only possible remedy. My sister lives in a large village close to a large Capita office. It has recently increased its staff numbers but chose not to expand its car park,

Where I used to live (Hampton Middx) they opened a Waitrose...
Of course local shops were against it (and I understand why) but I have to wonder, how did they get planning permission without providing more than the 10-12 spaces parking?

If Capita just put more people in the same space then that's one thing, if they actually had to do any building then they should have been forced to provide parking?

One place I work has 4 separate car parks and when they expanded they built a 5 story multi-story. I still occasionally have to park outside.... (as considerately as I can) and given this is next to school this just makes it harder on local residents .... weirdly I never had any problems here.... (other than parking under the tree the birds *rap out of.... )

brat

steve-L wrote: »

Where I used to live (Hampton Middx) they opened a Waitrose...
Of course local shops were against it (and I understand why) but I have to wonder, how did they get planning permission without providing more than the 10-12 spaces parking?

If Capita just put more people in the same space then that's one thing, if they actually had to do any building then they should have been forced to provide parking?

The two highlighted statements indicate the inherent weakness in the system. I don't know what requirement there is to consider parking availability in commercial planning applications, but there must be some consideration. That said, our local college has doubled its size by building on its previous car park. They promised that they increased the number of car parking spaces, but that was a fiddle. Consequently the battle for limited parking on residential streets has become more and more intense, and the police get called to more and more Mr & Mrs Angry minor obstruction issues.

I was in Switzerland last year, and they don't seem to allow any parking on residential streets, certainly not in the town where I stayed. Everyone parked on a drive or a parking area. It made the place seem so clean and uncluttered.
I presume UK residential estate planners had the same ideas 20 to 30 years ago years ago when they started to build new estates where the roads were hardly wide enough for one car to park without invading the pavement.
The idea would have been that people shouldn't park on the road, and be compelled to park on their drive or communal parking area rather than unnecessarily obstruct the pavement/road.
Unfortunately they didn't adequately consider that most families would have two or three cars, and their garage would be converted to a hobby space, storage or living space, hence pushing the second/third car onto the street.

More commuter cycling or jogging has to be the answer!