Bewarned Kim Dotcom (Megaupload) starts new site and MSE condone conmen run websites

custardy

railbuff wrote: »

This is what Magaload was all about, but was used to store and pass around ILLEGAL and copyrighted material, so was taken down by authorities

so it was nothing to do with Torerents then
Also Megaupload and their like is a great way of sharing legal files as well
really handy being able to upload a file,then send non techy folks a link for simple sharing

railbuff

custardy wrote: »

so it was nothing to do with Torerents then
Also Megaupload and their like is a great way of sharing legal files as well
really handy being able to upload a file,then send non techy folks a link for simple sharing

yes sites like this are handy, but megaload was taken down for racketeering, copyright infringement and money laudering. i dare say his new site wil end the same way, but the authorities will be more prepared as a leopard never changes his spots.

when it goes the same was a megaupload as it will eventually then users will come on forums like MSE moaning that they lost legit files and blame everyone but themselves for trusting a site run by a known conman who already had 1 site taken down by USA authorities

debitcardmayhem

Seems to me, like someone lost their shirt on Megaupload and are now trying to blame it on someone else , rather than examining their strategy to put all their eggs in one basket.

railbuff

debitcardmayhem wrote: »

Seems to me, like someone lost their shirt on Megaupload and are now trying to blame it on someone else , rather than examining their strategy to put all their eggs in one basket.

never used it. i never place eggs in one basket

I run hosting business and even have clients accounts backed up ont two other servers in separate datacentres, but all linked by clustering.

i have explained ther warning many times, but people chose to ignore it, so if you lose files if his new site is taken down then good you all deserve to lose them and get reported for paying a criminal to source criminal activies.

alleycat`

railbuff wrote: »

thats not true, you as a consumer can report illegal meaterial to a hosts provider direct and the provider must act on the report.

like if you get spam email you can report this too spamcop.net who will report this to the originators provider and have originators IP blocked/blacklisted.

so before to change my comments get your facts right. i suppose the whole internet is wrong about kim dotcom and MSE users are correct.

Why report it to spamcop in the first instance?
In fact what would it have to do with them at all?
Spamcop adding an IP to a blacklist is a fat lot of use if other people don't use their services (which a lot of large ISP's do not).

You should report it to the abuse address for domain name holder, the ISP and possibly the upstream provider if you get nowhere with the first two.

Quite often reporting it to places like spamcop in the first instance would make it worse as you are involving a third party who wouldn't necessarily know why the abuse had occured.
Spamcop also have no ability to sort the problem out as they do not have the ability to take down or fix the issue at source.

Some of your knowledge on how ISP's, carrier backbones and major infrastructure works is quite funny to behold.

railbuff

alleycat` wrote: »

Why report it to spamcop in the first instance?
In fact what would it have to do with them at all?
Spamcop adding an IP to a blacklist is a fat lot of use if other people don't use their services (which a lot of large ISP's do not).

You should report it to the abuse address for domain name holder, the ISP and possibly the upstream provider if you get nowhere with the first two.

Quite often reporting it to places like spamcop in the first instance would make it worse as you are involving a third party who wouldn't necessarily know why the abuse had occured.
Spamcop also have no ability to sort the problem out as they do not have the ability to take down or fix the issue at source.

Some of your knowledge on how ISP's, carrier backbones and major infrastructure works is quite funny to behold.

i also report spam to ISP etc. the more channels you report them too the better. being running a hosting business since 1999 so i know how things work. trouble is too many peopel on MSE cant read or this they know better that the LAW

PDC

Had a few perfectly legal files stored on megaupload. Was sorry to loose them there and have to find an alternative but never having paid for the service I didn't feel particularly cheated.

Shame as they were one of the more reliable and quicker services I thought. Did seem wrong to me at the time that the whole site was taken down rather than the illegal content but there you go, I dare say it will keep the legal profession in work for a few years to come.

railbuff

PDC wrote: »

Had a few perfectly legal files stored on megaupload. Was sorry to loose them there and have to find an alternative but never having paid for the service I didn't feel particularly cheated.

Shame as they were one of the more reliable and quicker services I thought. Did seem wrong to me at the time that the whole site was taken down rather than the illegal content but there you go, I dare say it will keep the legal profession in work for a few years to come.

why do people think it was just taken done just for illegal copright materail.

mr dotcom was using the site for money laundering and racketeering and maybe other illegal activities. money paid the his paid services most like were used to pay for illegal activities.

alleycat`

railbuff wrote: »

i also report spam to ISP etc. the more channels you report them too the better. being running a hosting business since 1999 so i know how things work. trouble is too many peopel on MSE cant read or this they know better that the LAW

Spamcop have no standing in law.
They offer a service you can choose to use or not.
Most ISP's do not use them because quite often they do more harm than good.

By reporting something to spamcop, or any other blacklist service of your choice, before allowing the ISP or the original source of the spam to act, you are doing the potential victim a disservice with regards to letting them put it right.

The fact you've been doing this since 1999 means you should know that and you should know better.

Taking your line of work as a "webhost" (i'll use your terminology) you should know that you could be victim to any number of things beyond your control whilst exposing your services to the "internet" and the last thing you want are "third parties" taking action against you before you've at least had the chance to do the right thing.

On top of all that being a "webhost" does not mean you know about large scale infrastructure designs, it doesn't mean you know about all the ins and outs of carrier grade networks and it doesn't mean you "know best".

I sort of understood why you didn't like KDC and his services, even if i thought you were misguided about the involvement of the US Department of Justice and the FBI, but this bit about spamcop really tickles me as it shows a distinct lack of empathy towards a potential victim. Then to top it off you want to use your time in the "industry" as a reason to why you are correct and everyone else is wrong.

I'm amused if nothing else.

alleycat`

railbuff wrote: »

why do people think it was just taken done just for illegal copright materail.

mr dotcom was using the site for money laundering and racketeering and maybe other illegal activities. money paid the his paid services most like were used to pay for illegal activities.

I would use the words allegedly if i were you.
He has been accused of many things but i have yet to see him tried and convicted of either of the above?
At the moment he is guilty in your mind and that is it.

I've previously stated i believe he is not a nice person but i don't have any proof that he is other than opinion pieces.