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Social services onto me about not having child in nursery! Advice needed

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  • johnnyl
    johnnyl Posts: 966 Forumite
    poet123 wrote: »
    I thought it was the younger child she was opting out for. Again, that is her prerogative.

    apparently not, the state must know everything.
  • mummyroysof3
    mummyroysof3 Posts: 4,566 Forumite
    Maybe the hv refered them as she thinks the op needs extra support...I don't see anything wrong with that tbh...should mean that ss would come out and have a chat and see if they can help...what's wrong with that?
    Have a Bsc Hons open degree from the Open University 2015 :j:D:eek::T
  • POPPYOSCAR
    POPPYOSCAR Posts: 14,902 Forumite
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    Maybe the hv refered them as she thinks the op needs extra support...I don't see anything wrong with that tbh...should mean that ss would come out and have a chat and see if they can help...what's wrong with that?

    They have been and had their 'chat' and have been told that because they do not want to send their 3 year old to nursery they are being referred to the education welfare.
  • pinkladyof66
    pinkladyof66 Posts: 1,829 Forumite
    Maybe SS has picked up on the fact the 3 year old needs more stimulation and mixing with other children of her own age.



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  • POPPYOSCAR
    POPPYOSCAR Posts: 14,902 Forumite
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    Maybe SS has picked up on the fact the 3 year old needs more stimulation and mixing with other children of her own age.


    I do not feel that is for SS to decide that at the age of 3.

    Nursery is not compulsory, we parents still have a choice.

    I would not want and would be highly offended if someone was to force me to send my child to nursery because they think it best.

    Some professionals have strong views about breastfeeding, should all mothers be forced to breastfeed because it is 'better' for the baby for example!!
  • pinkladyof66
    pinkladyof66 Posts: 1,829 Forumite
    My son when he was younger never had the stimulation a brain should have hence he now has global development delay and is behind his peers in somewhat years. Will he ever catch up we dont know. His birth parents did not do anything with him no brain stimulation. How do we know the HV thinks that this womens child is not doing what an average 3 year old should be doing hence having some other stimulation like nursery and mixing with other children. And by suggesting her child going to nursery flits around the fact the parent could well not be giving the 3 year old what she needs.



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  • POPPYOSCAR
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    My son when he was younger never had the stimulation a brain should have hence he now has global development delay and is behind his peers in somewhat years. Will he ever catch up we dont know. His birth parents did not do anything with him no brain stimulation. How do we know the HV thinks that this womens child is not doing what an average 3 year old should be doing hence having some other stimulation like nursery and mixing with other children. And by suggesting her child going to nursery flits around the fact the parent could well not be giving the 3 year old what she needs.

    Has this been said to the OP?

    No mention of it in their posts>

    Many people are reading deeper into this.

    I for one with my experience of social workers and health visitors can well believe that the HV was put out that her services were no longer required. Some of them do seem to have the attitude that they know best and that everyone should follow a prescribed course of action as advised by them.

    I bet if the OP had continued to accept visits by the HV none of this would have happened.
  • poet123
    poet123 Posts: 24,099 Forumite
    POPPYOSCAR wrote: »
    Has this been said to the OP?

    No mention of it in their posts>

    Many people are reading deeper into this.

    I for one with my experience of social workers and health visitors can well believe that the HV was put out that her services were no longer required. Some of them do seem to have the attitude that they know best and that everyone should follow a prescribed course of action as advised by them.

    I bet if the OP had continued to accept visits by the HV none of this would have happened.

    I do have to agree that this is a possibility. My own HV was lovely, but had her own set ideas, my tack with my first child was to pay lip service to her and then do what my mother/mil/ experienced friends advised;). With subsequent children I was confident enough in my own abilities to smile politely and ignore as appropriate.
  • pinkladyof66
    pinkladyof66 Posts: 1,829 Forumite
    my HV was more than happy when I said i didnt want her to call anymore and she only visited 3 times she was not stroppy nor unhappy. She just goes and see someone else who needs her more. HV should be professional and I have yet to meet one that isnt and being stroppy and put out cause someone does not want their services isnt professional



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  • Person_one
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    Indeed it would. Just to show my view isn't an extreme view I thought I'd post the view of the author Terry Deary (Horrible Histories) who does have quite an extreme but amusing view.

    "I've no interest in schools. They have no relevance in the 21st century. They were a Victorian idea to get kids off the street. Who decided that putting 30 kids with only their age in common in a classroom with one teacher was the best way of educating? At my school there were 52 kids in the class and all I learned was how to pass the 11-plus. Testing is the death of education. Kids should leave school at 11 and go to work. Not down the mines or up chimneys, mind, but working with computers or something relevant. Everything I learned after 11 was a waste of time. Trigonometry, Boyle's law: it's never been of any use to me. They should have been teaching me the life skills I was going to need, such as building relationships, parenting and managing money. I didn't have a clue about any of these things at 18. Schools need to change."

    and this quote of his is quite funny too.

    "I'd rather cut off my left arm and eat it with Marmite than go into a school - and I don't even like Marmite - but I'd consider going into schools to rescue my books. "I detest schools with a passion. My main beef with schools is that they are an utter waste of young life because they don't educate. Education is preparing someone for life and schools fail to do that. "If I could bulldoze them I would, and I do have a petition running on my website to close all schools and set children free"

    Sorry OP doesn't really help you except to show not everyone thinks you're weird for keeping your children at home.


    Wow, its incredible that so many people who went to school become functioning perfectly nice adults! How on earth are they managing it?

    I wouldn't fancy being operated on by a doctor, or living in a house designed by an architect who left school at 11. Very narrow minded to assume that because he doesn't think he learned anything useful after that age (I suspect he did) that it would be better for everyone to stop there.

    Disappointing, I used to love his books when I was a kid.
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