iPhone 5 vs S3

mrochester

J-Mac wrote: »

Why in your opinion is iOS better than Android?

Another point to consider is resale value of the handset. iPhones hold their value pretty well and will almost certainly be worth more than any other similarly aged handset come trade-in or sale time.

Android is too much like Symbian and Windows of days gone by; it's the sort of product that people but and tolerate because its the defacto standard, but very few actually like it. I much prefer the way that Apple makes iOS for me as an end user as opposed to the way Google makes Android for networks and OEMs.

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mrochester wrote: »

Android is too much like Symbian and Windows of days gone by; it's the sort of product that people but and tolerate because its the defacto standard, but very few actually like it. I much prefer the way that Apple makes iOS for me as an end user as opposed to the way Google makes Android for networks and OEMs.

I always laugh when I watch iPhone users entering texts one letter at a time. Us Android users have had swype texting for years!

Apple make their phones for profits.. not the users. They bring in incremental slow changes to tease out as much money from your silly wallets as they can

I do like the general architecture of iOS; the 'walled garden' approach works well for a lot of apps. It reduces the requirements on the iOS and makes for an efficient device. However, it cripples flexibility (e.g. moving files from one application to another) and forces the user to come up with crazy work arounds for anything vaguely complex (e.g. I tried to send a contact card from my Samsung S3 to an iphone last night.. I've given up because Apple doesn't seem to want to let users move phones!)

mrochester

ringo_24601 wrote: »

I always laugh when I watch iPhone users entering texts one letter at a time. Us Android users have had swype texting for years!

Apple make their phones for profits.. not the users. They bring in incremental slow changes to tease out as much money from your silly wallets as they can

I do like the general architecture of iOS; the 'walled garden' approach works well for a lot of apps. It reduces the requirements on the iOS and makes for an efficient device. However, it cripples flexibility (e.g. moving files from one application to another) and forces the user to come up with crazy work arounds for anything vaguely complex (e.g. I tried to send a contact card from my Samsung S3 to an iphone last night.. I've given up because Apple doesn't seem to want to let users move phones!)

I always laugh when I see Android users micro-managing their device, switching wifi, data etc etc on and off. I had no sympathy for my partner as he desperately tried to work out how to fix his cripplingly slow S3 (so slow he couldn't answer calls before going through to answer phone). It's a crying shame because Android has so much potential to be so much better, if only Google would put a little bit more effort in. However, Google are focused only on profits and getting Android into as many hands as possible, no matter how rubbish it is. One day the sheep will wake up and demand better from Google. I'm looking forward to that day so that we get better products.

Android is superior to ios, ios is playing catchup in the same way the hardware is playing catchup.

Im an android user just now, however i can't wait to try firefoxos, tizen or any number of other os's out there. Something you wouldn't dream of.

I'd disagree, iOS is superior to Android. I'm an iOS, Android and Windows Phone 8 user just now, so I guess I'm a little more qualified. I love trying new OSes and devices, I'm just not afraid to calling out what's crap about them instead of sucking up all the marketing hype

J-Mac

ringo_24601 wrote: »

I do like the general architecture of iOS; the 'walled garden' approach works well for a lot of apps. It reduces the requirements on the iOS and makes for an efficient device. However, it cripples flexibility (e.g. moving files from one application to another) and forces the user to come up with crazy work arounds for anything vaguely complex (e.g. I tried to send a contact card from my Samsung S3 to an iphone last night.. I've given up because Apple doesn't seem to want to let users move phones!)

I agree. I owned an iPhone 3GS a few years ago then switched to a HTC Desire HD running Android. Best phone I've ever owned. I'll now be upgrading to a Galaxy S3.

In my experience of using an Android handset, all of the functions I use regularly, I can manage with the touch of a single button. My experience of iOS was by no means a bad one it's just that I feel I can do more with Android.

23n1th

mrochester wrote: »

I always laugh when I see Android users micro-managing their device, switching wifi, data etc etc on and off. I had no sympathy for my partner as he desperately tried to work out how to fix his cripplingly slow S3 (so slow he couldn't answer calls before going through to answer phone). It's a crying shame because Android has so much potential to be so much better, if only Google would put a little bit more effort in. However, Google are focused only on profits and getting Android into as many hands as possible, no matter how rubbish it is. One day the sheep will wake up and demand better from Google. I'm looking forward to that day so that we get better products.

Really have no idea about what you're talking about do you? If your pattern has messed his phone up to that extent I would suggest getting him a phone from Fisher Price, maybe he might be able to handle it better.

I'd disagree, iOS is superior to Android. I'm an iOS, Android and Windows Phone 8 user just now, so I guess I'm a little more qualified. I love trying new OSes and devices, I'm just not afraid to calling out what's crap about them instead of sucking up all the marketing hype

No one is more qualified than me to decide what I want, since all you've stated is your subjective opinion, I'm using mine; Android is far superior!

I find it amusing you mention marketing hype and profits whilst trying to defend apple. Pot kettle .... what's the rest?

Apple is only focused on profits and is all marketing hype, with a side business of patent troll thrown in.

Frozen_up_north

An update on battery life with my iPhone 5, when I don't need 3G data, turning cellular data off gives a huge increase in battery life. Overnight it now only drops around 1%.

Of course, being a smart phone means turning data back on for e-mail, apps and web browsing which need 3G data (or WiFi). So it's not a complete fix... But at least battery use is now to some extent under control.

mrochester

Really have no idea about what you're talking about do you? If your pattern has messed his phone up to that extent I would suggest getting him a phone from Fisher Price, maybe he might be able to handle it better.

I'd suggest that perhaps Google should fix the OS so these things don't happen .

I find it amusing you mention marketing hype and profits whilst trying to defend apple. Pot kettle .... what's the rest?

Apple is only focused on profits and is all marketing hype, with a side business of patent troll thrown in.

At least Apple's focus on profits is also a focus on making great products for consumers. Google's focus on profits is partnered with making great products for OEMs and networks, not consumers. You end up with products of questionable quality as a result (sadly).

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Frozen_up_north wrote: »

An update on battery life with my iPhone 5, when I don't need 3G data, turning cellular data off gives a huge increase in battery life. Overnight it now only drops around 1%.

Of course, being a smart phone means turning data back on for e-mail, apps and web browsing which need 3G data (or WiFi). So it's not a complete fix... But at least battery use is now to some extent under control.

Stop micro-managing your device!!

mrochester

ringo_24601 wrote: »

Stop micro-managing your device!!

Exactly, it's completely unnecessary.

mrochester

What is it they say about workmen and they're tools? I would suggest you so blaming the tool and start looking at the user.

You're just making excuses for Google and manufacturers to make poor products. However, as you worship at the altar of Google, I'm not surprised :P.

How much profit do google make from Android?

No idea. Google's profits come from advertising. I'm looking forward to the day when profits from advertising fall dramatically so that Google actually has to try and make a product that people are willing to pay for instead of giving it away for free. This will benefit us massively as consumers as we'll be the customer of whatever product Google make instead of being the product as we are now.

Android is open source and free to use and install, that means anyone can use it on any device that they can get it to work on, google don't control this. You wouldn't understand that though you're in you're walked garden.

Since when was the Nexus 4 considered a 'walled garden'? The fact that anyone can use it and chop and change it is precisely what is wrong with Android. If Google exerted more control over the platform and stopped OEMs and networks from messing with the OS, we'd get much better products as a result. But it's not in Google's interests to do so, because that would compromise their profits. So you can see how Google operate Android the way they currently do only to serve themselves and their partners, not you the consumer.

So explain the increased battery life?

No idea.