Drinking

Hazel_

Yeah, they are 24-25 year olds. I'm growing out of it.

j.e.j.

sorry, not having a pop at you, it just saddens me that this has kind of become the norm, iyswim. I think this booze culture is really getting out of hand.

Hazel_

I agree, If you've been inside some of Manchester less finer night clubs, grabbing breasts and lads forcing themselves on girls after a few is the norm.

365days

There is a great thread on debtfreediaries for cutting down/stopping drinking. Weekly/monthly challenges etc.

I am just over 3 years sober. My life has changed dramatically, I have lost a lotof 'friends' not necessarily from them dropping me, but from me finding that spending time in the company of drunks no longer appealing. (Drunks like drunk friends, it's a complex enabling relationship)

It's not always easy, I get fewer invites, but have found other social outlets like you mention; nice lunches, coffees etc.

I won't get too evangelical about booze here, but I believe it is one of UK's biggest social problems at the moment.

Good luck with the new you. Hope you find lots of different ways to have fun!

Hermia

j.e.j. wrote: »

sorry, not having a pop at you, it just saddens me that this has kind of become the norm, iyswim. I think this booze culture is really getting out of hand.

It's not new though. When my dad first came to Britain in the 70s he thought we were a nation of alcoholics! He couldn't understand why every night out revolved around the pub & people couldn't just enjoy a couple of glasses. I am not sure what is it about Britain that makes us like this. It was only when I lived abroad for a while that I realised how we are seen be outsiders. I am sure some learned person has written about this!

Person_one

Hazel_ wrote: »

I agree, If you've been inside some of Manchester less finer night clubs, grabbing breasts and lads forcing themselves on girls after a few is the norm.

I guess you need to go to nicer places then, I live in the centre of Manchester and while I do see some poor behaviour its certainly not the norm. The norm amongst adults is to relax, socialise, have fun and then go home. The vast majority manage to do this without vomiting, assaulting anybody or getting arrested.

Its good that you've decided not to drink as much, as clearly you were overdoing it before, but please try not to go too far the other way and end up being judgemental and snotty about people who do enjoy a drink, and even getting drunk occasionally. Its perfectly legal and not harmful if you're sensible.

365days

Person_one wrote: »

I guess you need to go to nicer places then, I live in the centre of Manchester and while I do see some poor behaviour its certainly not the norm. The norm amongst adults is to relax, socialise, have fun and then go home. The vast majority manage to do this without vomiting, assaulting anybody or getting arrested.

Its good that you've decided not to drink as much, as clearly you were overdoing it before, but please try not to go too far the other way and end up being judgemental and snotty about people who do enjoy a drink, and even getting drunk occasionally. Its perfectly legal and not harmful if you're sensible.

Unfortunately some people cannot be sensible. Just as some people can play the fruities on the pier and walk away some people can drink within their limts and have safe, legal fun. Likewise some people lose their jobs, families, homes and health and sometimes even their lives due to gambling and/or drinking. Why should she not 'go to far' if she believes it is becoming a problem for her?

Person_one

365days wrote: »

Unfortunately some people cannot be sensible. Just as some people can play the fruities on the pier and walk away some people can drink within their limts and have safe, legal fun. Likewise some people lose their jobs, families, homes and health and sometimes even their lives due to gambling and/or drinking. Why should she not 'go to far' if she believes it is becoming a problem for her?

Im advising her not to go 'too far' in her condemnation of other people's perfectly legal behaviour and non-harmful actions.

365days

Person_one wrote: »

Im advising her not to go 'too far' in her condemnation of other people's perfectly legal behaviour and non-harmful actions.

I wasn't under the impression that she had any intention to.

Hazel_

Person_one wrote: »

Im advising her not to go 'too far' in her condemnation of other people's perfectly legal behaviour and non-harmful actions.

If people want to drink then thats fine with me

I can join in with a kaliber or similar drink. If needed.