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  • 50Twuncle
    50Twuncle Posts: 10,763 Forumite
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    edited 27 December 2012 at 2:49PM
    HappyMJ wrote: »
    Your ADSL contract says you'll get the fastest available speed which will remain at 4Mbps. You'll need a new contract and a BT Openreach engineer to visit to install Fibre.

    Why will a BT Openreach engineer need to visit ?
    FTC means - Fibre to Cabinet - not to Home
    Surely the whole idea of FTC connections is that the vast majority of the cable run has been replaced by fibre - leaving the last few 100 yards as the "lossy" section ?
    I live approx 2 miles from the exchange and about 100 yards from the nearest cabinet and since BT Openreach are not part of BT - Then I stand as much of a chance of getting a decent connection speed as any other ISP ?
  • macman
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    edited 28 December 2012 at 9:13AM
    FTTC still involves the installation of a cable (edit: sorry, fibre) modem, this requires an OR engineer to install it (it's not a self-install).
    No free lunch, and no free laptop ;)
  • penrhyn
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    He visits to fit a 'Fibre' modem actually a VDSL modem, and to set this up with the router supplied by you ISP and to optimise the set up.

    The BT patronising video:-



    http://www.webvideos.co.uk/clients/146-bt-infinity-upto-40mb-pre-sales-animated-video.html
    That gum you like is coming back in style.
  • 21Twinkle wrote: »
    Why will a BT Openreach engineer need to visit ?
    FTC means - Fibre to Cabinet - not to Home
    Surely the whole idea of FTC connections is that the vast majority of the cable run has been replaced by fibre - leaving the last few 100 yards as the "lossy" section ?
    I live approx 2 miles from the exchange and about 100 yards from the nearest cabinet and since BT Openreach are not part of BT - Then I stand as much of a chance of getting a decent connection speed as any other ISP ?

    Your present router only has an ADSL modem in it. FTTC requires a VDSL modem which is what the Openreach engineer visits to install. They will also change the faceplate on the master socket and do a line test.

    The speed between the cabinet and your house will be identical between ISPs for the same Openreach product. All ISPs reselling FTTC products are selling the same technical solution. The only speed differences will be with the ISPs own networks.
  • nickcc
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    Just had Fibre installed, engineer on site about 30 mins and changed face plate and fitted new hub and modem. Previous speeds 15 Mbps download now 20 Mbps, upload previous .8 Mbps now 9 Mbps, all results wireless. Ethernet download now 30 Mbps and upload 9 Mbps. BT supplied fibre at no extra cost so well worth it in my case.
  • macman
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    nickcc wrote: »
    Just had Fibre installed, engineer on site about 30 mins and changed face plate and fitted new hub and modem. Previous speeds 15 Mbps download now 20 Mbps, upload previous .8 Mbps now 9 Mbps, all results wireless. Ethernet download now 30 Mbps and upload 9 Mbps. BT supplied fibre at no extra cost so well worth it in my case.

    Please elaborate!
    No free lunch, and no free laptop ;)
  • nickcc
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    macman wrote: »
    Please elaborate!

    We had fibre in our area about 8 months ago, BT bombarded us with phone calls and letters pushing us to go for infinity at an extra cost of £5 per month. At the time we were more than happy with the speeds we were getting so we refused to upgrade. About a month ago we received a letter from BT offering us a free upgrade which we accepted.
  • macman
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    edited 28 December 2012 at 10:03AM
    Free for how long though- 6 months? And how long is the fibre contract for-12 months, 18 months?
    No free lunch, and no free laptop ;)
  • Gordon_Hose
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    OK Cheers,

    I find this seems to be the most accurate about what you can and can't get

    http://www.dslchecker.bt.com/adsl/adslchecker.welcome

    Indicates for me that I should see around 80mb down when FTTC does arrive, which would seem right because our green street cab is about 20m from our property.

    Not sure I trust that. It says my cabinet supports fibre. It definitely doesn't.
  • 50Twuncle
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    Your present router only has an ADSL modem in it. FTTC requires a VDSL modem which is what the Openreach engineer visits to install. They will also change the faceplate on the master socket and do a line test.

    The speed between the cabinet and your house will be identical between ISPs for the same Openreach product. All ISPs reselling FTTC products are selling the same technical solution. The only speed differences will be with the ISPs own networks.

    Are you sure that you are not talking about FTTH ?
    FTTH requires the modem (due to having fibre to the home)
    FT(T)C is only fibre to the cabinet (in my case about 200 yards away) - the cable from the cabinet to my home will be unchanged ........
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