scared in our new home

meames_2

I believe people are able to "know" things that possibly there is no seemingly rational explanation that they should. No disrespect to anyone who classes themselves as pyschic as i do not know what happens for them (voices, feeling, illusions?). However, I do believe some people have more perhaps empathy and pick up on subtle clues without realising what they are doing. I do this quite a lot and I often know things about people that I shouldn't but mostly this is unimportant silly stuff that I have perhaps made educated guess at from some other thing they have said. Cold reading but I'm not aware of doing it. In my job it is a useful skill and most people in a caring profession like nursing or education have it to some degree. You can tell what people are doing without looking, which surprises them no end!

Jojo_the_Tightfisted

Cold reading - now there's a phrase to drive me to violence.


MIL wide eyed and absolutely convinced, beyond all reason, the psychic 'couldn't possibly have known'


'I see a little old man with you' (MIL is 4 foot 10)

Had she said 'I see a really, really tall old man with you', MIL's grandfather was over 6 foot tall. As was her husband.

'He's got blue eyes' (MIL has blue eyes)

Had she said brown eyes, then that would cover her husband.

'He's got blond hair (MIL has blonde hair).

Had she said dark hair, that would cover her husband.

'He's finding it hard to breathe' (MIL smokes, so would have been easy to smell it or see her spark up outside beforehand).

As it was, grandfather, father and husband all died of smoking related diseases. Had she said 'he fell down' that would have covered both smoking related disease, BIL's collapse from cerebral haemorrhage, grandfather's being shot it WWI and probably a hundred other relatives.

'There's somebody else here' (MIL puts hand on chest, towards her shoulder) 'He's got his hand on your shoulder, he's taller than you' (well, durrrrrrrrrr!) That's my husband! I lost him early this year, MIL says.

'You keep something. Clothing'. MIL gasps with shock. How could she know that someone widowed relatively early keeps some clothing within a few months of his death? :cool:

How, indeed? It's not as if it's well known that loads of people keep special things for their scent.

'He's always with you'. Yeah, great, everything's happy and fixed, now it's time to hand over the cash.



I have absolutely no idea how much she paid out to this scavenging !!!!!, but she scammed her good and proper.

dktreesea

BitterAndTwisted wrote: »

...........There's no such thing as the paranormal ..............

And you know this for sure how?

Put it this way, I believe in the evidence of my senses. We lived ina house where the man, we were later told, had offed himself with a shotgun. He used to stand at the door of our bedroom. He scared my wee boy, until I showed him how to pass his hand through this man's body (ghosts hate that in my experience). The ghost soon moved on. Good riddance to him. I'm all for being kind to ghosts, provided they don't disturb those who can see them.

Bats coming into houses are eerie. They move very fast, so it may feel like there is a dark force in the house. Have a good look at curtains, near the tops. If you have a bat, that could be where it is hanging out.

DannyBo

dktreesea wrote: »

Bats coming into houses are eerie. They move very fast, so it may feel like there is a dark force in the house. Have a good look at curtains, near the tops. If you have a bat, that could be where it is hanging out.

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I looked at the tops of all my curtains and still cannot find that damn bat !

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sassyblue

Welshwoofs wrote: »

Every single faith is a total fantasy.

Welshwoofs wrote: »

No, it's just that all mediums are charlatans .

Welshwoofs wrote: »

She wasn't trying to defaud you, but she was manipulating your feelings

You keep forgetting to add IMO after your posts

DannyBo

sassyblue wrote: »

You keep forgetting to add IMO after your posts

IMO would be redundant - the fact that he/she has typed it, already indicates that; that is their opinion.

RevolvingDoor

Welshwoofs wrote: »

You don't need to 'suspect' what he did, it's on Youtube so you can check it out if you have a mind to. The show is called Messiah...and he sets out to convince so-called 'experts' in the paranormal field that he's gifted in that area. You'll find him duping the medium from 36:45 onwards. He was remarkably successful at it so no, he didn't just fool people who didn't know what was supposed to happen.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLbesxxKzcM

It makes me laugh that so many skeptics seem to worship Derren Brown when he is an entertainer who obviously has his shows edited to make himself look better.:p I have known people who worked with him on TV and he gets it wrong a lot of the time.:D

no1catman wrote: »

Many mediums travel the country visiting churches - for no financial gain, doing God's work - bringing (yes) comfort to the bereaved.

I know people who have seen mediums like that and they usually don't charge any money at all.

Welshwoofs

sassyblue wrote: »

You keep forgetting to add IMO after your posts

There's little point in adding 'IMO' when we are already discussing a topic that has no basis in fact and is therefore, by default, merely conjecture and superstition. There has not been a single experiment done with scientific controls that has shown any shred of evidence for ghosts, psychic powers or communion with the dead. Not one. However there has been a number of experiments that have successfully emulated 'spooky happenings' with absolutely rational and often frighteningly normal causes.

Ghosts? As people on the thread have mentioned - there's infrasound. You actually see a ghost? Well then we have sleep paralysis, hypnagogic and hypnopompic hallucinations and even when wide awake we have good old optical tricks - that moment of glimpsing something out of the corner of your eye and your brain filling in the blank with something it 'recognises'....which as we know is often a face or a figure. Or how about this awful tale of a haunted family....it actually turned out to be gas poisoning by a faulty boiler. Then we've got black mold behind walls or under floorboards and one of the symptoms of having that stuff on the premises is hallucinations; not to mention anxiety, insomnia and a whole host of other stuff.

So given that there isn't a single experiment to prove the existence of ghosts, but there are dozens of experiments (and scientists who've dedicated their entire career to investigating reports of ghosts) that demonstrate a perfectly normal and replicatable explanation for such.....why is it that the moment someone says they have a problem with their home, so many people reach for 'ghosts' as an explanation?? Seriously, it makes absolutely no sense to draw that straw first before any of the numerous mundane explanations have been looked at. What honestly worries me is that we look back at historical happenings like Salem and shake our heads that people could look at their spoilt milk and blame witchcraft for it.....but when we, in a 21st Century developed country, come up with 'ghost' as the #1 reason for a few bangs in the night couldn't be said to be an indication that we are sliding backwards into that sort of madness?

flashnazia

@welshwoofs

There are people who believe in God and there are people who don't (as well as in between).

There are people who believe in ghosts, djinns, spirits, fairies whatever and there are people who don't.

Why can't we just tolerate each other? Why take the 'my way or the highway, you lot are all stupid!' approach?

antrobus

flashnazia wrote: »

@welshwoofs

There are people who believe in God and there are people who don't (as well as in between).

There are people who believe in ghosts, djinns, spirits, fairies whatever and there are people who don't.

Why can't we just tolerate each other? Why take the 'my way or the highway, you lot are all stupid!' approach?

What do you mean by "tolerate each other"? I don't see welshwoofs persecuting anyone. I suspect that your real objection is that you have no answer to the argument they are presenting.