scared in our new home

Person_one

poet123 wrote: »

I agree, but I still can't explain what happened to me.

I know my mother would have come back, although my niece did visit a medium and was told by her that my mum had said that we needed to sort the radiator in our youngest son's room.....and it was true we did. And she was obsessed with kids not being cold in bed, so it was very typical of what she would have said.

Lots of grandmas say things like that though, its a pretty safe bet and after the 'medium' said it then all the times it came up would suddenly seem more significant than they were at the time. I bet there were other things to do with your children she cared about that didn't get mentioned.

poet123

Person_one wrote: »

Lots of grandmas say things like that though, its a pretty safe bet and after the 'medium' said it then all the times it came up would suddenly seem more significant than they were at the time. I bet there were other things to do with your children she cared about that didn't get mentioned.

You are right, and of course, part of you wants to believe it.

Person_one

poet123 wrote: »

You are right, and of course, part of you wants to believe it.

That's what they prey on, of course you want to believe it! What could be more comforting than finding out that your loved one still exists somewhere and is ok? That's how they exploit vulnerable people and why it so thoroughly stinks.

flashnazia

Person_one wrote: »

You're a Muslim, djinn aren't a secret.

I don't believe in Jinn, or fairies, or unicorns either, they require an even bigger disconnect from reality than ghosts surely?

Not really. Years ago we didn't know about bacteria, dna etc. Just because we can't see something doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
But I also believe that people who believe in these things shouldn't dwell on these matters too much

aliasojo

My neighbour was able to communicate with the dead.

She used to tell me things over the fence and one day described how my Mum saw me in my kitchen sitting on the floor crying.

She didn't want money from me, she wasn't trying to defraud me, she was just passing on what she thought I should know (i.e. a message from my Mum).

I do agree a lot (all?) of the stage show mediums are charlatans but people like my neighbour do exist and I do believe they are genuine.

Welshwoofs

aliasojo wrote: »

My neighbour was able to communicate with the dead.

She used to tell me things over the fence and one day described how my Mum saw me in my kitchen sitting on the floor crying.

She didn't want money from me, she wasn't trying to defraud me, she was just passing on what she thought I should know (i.e. a message from my Mum).

She wasn't trying to defaud you, but she was manipulating your feelings and trying to make you feel better by giving you a suitably fluffy 'message' from someone she knew you were close to.

Being a neighbour she'll know you far better than a medium who's never met you before so she's already forearmed. Telling you that you were sitting on the floor crying is not really a ground-breaking bit of information - if she knows you and knows if you're upset/bereaved then it's easy to guess that you'll be crying at times. Guessing that you were crying on the kitchen floor could be either an educated assumption (it's a room many women spend a lot of time in...I've done a few 'crying on the kitchen floor' stints myself), or it could be that she heard you or saw you.

Try testing her with some question about your Mum that only you would know the answer to. Something really bloody specific and be prepared to hear that "it doesn't work like that" or "the communication is one way" or "the dead won't be tested" or some other such guff.

luxor4t

omnasia wrote: »

Thanks for the link Welshwoofs, that was interesting.
A friend sent me this as it reminded her of us (hope it works)
See this property on rightmove.co.uk

Go through the photos, you'll see what she meant

They have my dining table and chairs

no1catman

Person_one wrote: »

Really, watch Derren Brown's debunking programme. It completely shatters any idea that these con artists who exploit the bereaved for financial gain could possibly be genuine.

I watched another programme on TV - where the 'testers' brought in someone to have a 'message'. Trouble was - it was almost as if they assumed it was just the subject and the 'medium' involved, ignoring the sender!
As it was the 'sender' that determines who needs the message the most.
What happened - the 'medium' gave a message to the cameraman!! Which he accepted as accurate. However, the professional sceptic refused to accept this.

Many mediums travel the country visiting churches - for no financial gain, doing God's work - bringing (yes) comfort to the bereaved.
And there are others, who in an effort to reach more people than through 'private readings' - have larger scale meetings. On the one hand the chance of getting a message is much lower this way, and there is 'pressure' on the medium to 'perform'. So I wouldn't judge all mediums by the ones your see on 'stage'.

aliasojo

Welshwoofs wrote: »

She wasn't trying to defaud you, but she was manipulating your feelings and trying to make you feel better by giving you a suitably fluffy 'message' from someone she knew you were close to.

Being a neighbour she'll know you far better than a medium who's never met you before so she's already forearmed. Telling you that you were sitting on the floor crying is not really a ground-breaking bit of information - if she knows you and knows if you're upset/bereaved then it's easy to guess that you'll be crying at times. Guessing that you were crying on the kitchen floor could be either an educated assumption (it's a room many women spend a lot of time in...I've done a few 'crying on the kitchen floor' stints myself), or it could be that she heard you or saw you.

Try testing her with some question about your Mum that only you would know the answer to. Something really bloody specific and be prepared to hear that "it doesn't work like that" or "the communication is one way" or "the dead won't be tested" or some other such guff.

I know people like to explain things away rationally but my experience with this person is not able to explained away so easily imo.

Obviously you are only party to the condensed version. The full version involves personal things that my neighbour (or anyone on here for that matter) would not have known about.

(Edit: Mum has been dead for over 20 years and I was upset about something about me personally, the neighbour didn't know me well, just to say hello and cheerio to and talk about the weather.)

I suppose it was a bit daft me posting since I'm not willing to share the personal stuff and you all can only go on what I do post.:D

Never mind, just ignore me. :rotfl:

marleyboy

aliasojo wrote: »

I suppose it was a bit daft me posting since I'm not willing to share the personal stuff and you all can only go on what I do post.:D

Never mind, just ignore me. :rotfl:

Agree with you on this, my Mother is psychic as was my Grandmother, I would go as far as to say everyone can be psychic.

I tend not to discuss such personal matters with anyone other than my own family, for fear of ridicule or being branded some sort of fruitcake.

The irony is that a true medium, is more likely the non celebrity who keeps such abilities to themselves and rarely if ever, wishes to discuss it with anyone.

The likes of Derek Accorah or Silvia Browne, who go around preaching it for a profit, I would class as fakes or fraudsters who do nothing but give any real psychics a bad name.

Mud does stick, so its best to keep such matters and\or abilities to yourself.