Lunch with Colleagues - don't know what to do

sassyblue

onlyroz wrote: »

I don't think you should be spreading this around the office. The person to approach is your colleague's superior, armed with your evidence of their theft.

I'm not sure it is. If this problem came to me at work I'd say it wasn't anything to do with the company, it was during an offsite lunch break and wasn't paid for by the company.....

Any

sassyblue wrote: »

I'm not sure it is. If this problem came to me at work I'd say it wasn't anything to do with the company, it was during an offsite lunch break and wasn't paid for by the company.....

That's exactly what I would say to be honest.
There is not even much I could do exactly for those reasons. I am sure that the bosses above me wouldn't be happy if I spent my time investigating something that was done off company time.
And to deal with it I would have to call the restaurant to confirm the story at least.

sassyblue

Poppy9 wrote: »

but you don't normally get a receipt for tips, it's normally all cash in hand!

Not always. When you pay by debit/credit card you often have the option to add a tip before you put your PIN number in.

I can see she's going to say she found a £20 in her purse (despite supposedly needing a cashpoint) and paid the tip in cash....

oP why did you tip £30 when the initial tip was £19? You're not going to be fully repaid.

Any

yvonne13 wrote: »

To be honest I have never heard of a case when a restaurant manager has asked why a tip wasn't left but as the OP said as it's their usual practice he obviously felt the need.

Also another poster saw it from another angle where the manager could have thought the new girl was a thief.

I just hope everything gets resolved and it doesn't come down to he said she said.

Agree on the manager.
Hopefully the OP put all the info in that email and ot will be dealt with sensitively, such as viewing the possibilities of stolen tip and not go down all guns blazing on the girl.

Any

sassyblue wrote: »

Not always. When you pay by debit/credit card you often have the option to add a tip before you put your PIN number in.

I can see she's going to say she found a £20 in her purse (despite supposedly needing a cashpoint) and paid the tip in cash....

Ditto on all you said.
Or the girl will say 'OMG in all the rush to get back to the office on time I forgot, didn't think clearly'

gibson123

ceebeeby wrote: »

I don't get how no-one realised a tip hadn't been left in the first place. If I'm being completely honest, I don't really buy your scarf story and the coffee with the manager either (sorry). I think you did notice something was up with the tip at the time and went back later and asked about it. I do believe that a tip wasn't left, but I'm not convinced this was a deliberate dishonest act rather than an in a rush mistake. You paint thingy out to be a very poor person, yet you've basically said you were party to her being deliberately isolated from the meal originally (and had to invite herself), you avoided her throughout (but watched her carefully enough to notice the money) and now have accused her of theft to your colleague and are considering management input. I also don't really buy the story of you paying out another £30 tip with no guarantee of return.
I could be waaaaaay off the mark but I really do wonder about your motive here and with a previous bullying grievance against you I would seriously have just left this alone and put it down to an honest mistake.

Her grievance against me was dismissed she was warned for bullying the junior staff member who was then transferred from her team to my team.
The scarf story is genuine, and yes I did give a £30 tip, I also covered this with the restaurant Manager saying there must have been a mistake. I suspect he noticed us counting out the money at the end of the meal and noticed a discrepancy and that inviting me for coffee was his subtle way of letting me know what had happened otherwise I would be none the wiser. I did not arrange the meal, I was invited and it wasn't me that excluded her, but I do avoid her given our past history, I find it very difficult to engage in conversation with her. If I have any motive towards her it is to try to avoid any further run ins, so I would certainly not have engineered a situation like this - once bitten twice shy.

Any

sassyblue wrote: »

Not always. When you pay by debit/credit card you often have the option to add a tip before you put your PIN number in.

I can see she's going to say she found a £20 in her purse (despite supposedly needing a cashpoint) and paid the tip in cash....

oP why did you tip £30 when the initial tip was £19? You're not going to be fully repaid.

It was £34.
The girl took their £19 extra AND didn't pay her £15 on top.

gibson123

sassyblue wrote: »

Not always. When you pay by debit/credit card you often have the option to add a tip before you put your PIN number in.

I can see she's going to say she found a £20 in her purse (despite supposedly needing a cashpoint) and paid the tip in cash....

oP why did you tip £30 when the initial tip was £19? You're not going to be fully repaid.

The bill was £116, we all agreed to pay £15 including tip, this would mean a total of £150 - £15 x 10 people. Thingy was paying her £15 by card, the £135 was £15 x 9 people. I only had a £10 and £20 note, so the waitress is down £4 on what we intended tipping, if my maths is correct.

yvonne13_2

OP was there 10 people at the meal?
Also you ended up paying £45 for your meal plus tip!! crumbs that is a lot of money to spend on cous cous and wine :0)

gibson123

Any wrote: »

Ditto on all you said.
Or the girl will say 'OMG in all the rush to get back to the office on time I forgot, didn't think clearly'

Yes and if she then returns the money then we can safely drop this and I get my £30 back.