Lunch with Colleagues - don't know what to do

Sambucus_Nigra

sassyblue wrote: »

I was going to say hang on but l see you've mentioned it to a colleague now.

Is there a chance the manager was asking about the tip because he suspects his new staff member is a thief?

Exactly - this could not be as cut and dried as we think.

Evidence is needed before she is outed in public. It could get very nasty.

Any

I wouldn't involve work/manager either, the fact is it has nothing to do with them and if you go in 'just for advice' you will look like you are bringing it to their attention just to dip her in and open the war lines again.
Good you told your friends, I would do that too! It 's colective problem, you shouldn't bare the pain alone!
Hope you update us with what happened next!!

gibson123

yvonne13 wrote: »

As you don't have a copy of the tip you paid she could easily say it's not true and you making it up to cause problems.

I don't think you should have sent an email to your co-worker either as that could be used against you in a negative way but I do hope you get this sorted.

There's nothing worse than working with people you don't trust.

I trust the colleague that I sent the e-mail to, she has come up against this colleague before but has safely navigated the waters, where I would go in where angels fear to tread, she is much more considered and tends to find a way to sort things without compromising herself in any way, she has a much wiser head than I have.

Any

yvonne13 wrote: »

As you don't have a copy of the tip you paid she could easily say it's not true and you making it up to cause problems.

I don't think you should have sent an email to your co-worker either as that could be used against you in a negative way but I do hope you get this sorted.

There's nothing worse than working with people you don't trust.

I don't understand how? The manager of the restaurant surely can confirm that they did not get a tip and that he/she was questioning OP?
Also I think the others can addup how much was on the table, versus the bill?

gibson123

Any wrote: »

I wouldn't involve work/manager either, the fact is it has nothing to do with them and if you go in 'just for advice' you will look like you are bringing it to their attention just to dip her in and open the war lines again.
Good you told your friends, I would do that too! It 's colective problem, you shouldn't bare the pain alone!
Hope you update us with what happened next!!

I will do an update tomorrow.

ceebeeby

I don't get how no-one realised a tip hadn't been left in the first place. If I'm being completely honest, I don't really buy your scarf story and the coffee with the manager either (sorry). I think you did notice something was up with the tip at the time and went back later and asked about it. I do believe that a tip wasn't left, but I'm not convinced this was a deliberate dishonest act rather than an in a rush mistake. You paint thingy out to be a very poor person, yet you've basically said you were party to her being deliberately isolated from the meal originally (and had to invite herself), you avoided her throughout (but watched her carefully enough to notice the money) and now have accused her of theft to your colleague and are considering management input. I also don't really buy the story of you paying out another £30 tip with no guarantee of return.
I could be waaaaaay off the mark but I really do wonder about your motive here and with a previous bullying grievance against you I would seriously have just left this alone and put it down to an honest mistake.

onlyroz

I don't think you should be spreading this around the office. The person to approach is your colleague's superior, armed with your evidence of their theft.

gibson123

yvonne13 wrote: »

As you don't have a copy of the tip you paid she could easily say it's not true and you making it up to cause problems.

I don't think you should have sent an email to your co-worker either as that could be used against you in a negative way but I do hope you get this sorted.

There's nothing worse than working with people you don't trust.

But I do have a receipt showing she paid £116 and my colleagues can confirm she took £135 from the table, so it is £19 she pocketed and she did not pay her part of the agreed bill of £15.

yvonne13_2

Any wrote: »

I don't understand how? The manager of the restaurant surely can confirm that they did not get a tip and that he/she was questioning OP?
Also I think the others can addup how much was on the table, versus the bill?

To be honest I have never heard of a case when a restaurant manager has asked why a tip wasn't left but as the OP said as it's their usual practice he obviously felt the need.

Also another poster saw it from another angle where the manager could have thought the new girl was a thief.

I just hope everything gets resolved and it doesn't come down to he said she said.

Poppy9

gibson123 wrote: »

But I do have a receipt showing she paid £116 and my colleagues can confirm she took £135 from the table, so it is £19 she pocketed and she did not pay her part of the agreed bill of £15.

but you don't normally get a receipt for tips, it's normally all cash in hand!

Also the e-mail was a big mistake. It's now in writing you have started off the whole process, hope you didn't use work email as an employer can read it.