Not 'doing' Santa

skintchick

seven-day-weekend wrote: »

Because it's lying? There are various ways of telling the truth without hurting someone's feelings.

(I've answered a question put to skintchick - this is my answer, not skintchick's)

And in reply to Person_one, above, sometimes people are hurt, upset or disappointed. That's life. You deal with it and move on.

I would be hurt, upset and disappointed if I found one of my loved ones had lied to me.

^^^ WSS

Person_one wrote: »

So can I attempt to summarise your position on this?

You don't believe there are any situations where a white lie is the best option, you believe you can find a way to handle every situation without ever resorting to a white lie and its possible to do this without ever hurting, upsetting or disappointing somebody?

That is correct.

I'm off now, been on here too long and although I'm still bedbound I feel the need to do something that doesn't involve a screen. Been on internet or watching TV almost all day. I'm going to read the Daily Fail my Mum bought me and get outraged.

skintchick

thatgirlsam wrote: »

Whoops, did you get 'out-patronised' there :rotfl:




Sorry, I've had a glass of wine

Just before I go, just saw this.

I try very hard not to patronise people, and I don't think that I have patronised anyone on here.

NAR

thatgirlsam wrote: »

I've been told my puppies are cute

I think a photo is required to prove you/they are not lying!!

notanewuser

madison-nyc wrote: »

Would be interested to know what the OP's memories are of xmas as a child? I can remember it being such an exciting and magical time for me and my sister , cuddling up in bed together trying to stay awake for when santa arrived. It's a fabulous part of childhood that lasts for such a short time.

My kids are 5 and 3, I've shown them their PNP vids from santa today and seeing their faces light up in sheer disbelief is just priceless!

Seems just pointless to go against the whole tradition and fun of it. yes , i'm sure the kids will be fine , no long term damage will be done BUT they're missing out on those so much (IMO,obviously)

My memories of xmas as a child suck for a number of reasons (some of which are already listed on here), and I don't want this to be the case for DD. It was not a fabulous part of my childhood.

I'm going to say this once more, and in nice big letters

THIS IS NOT ABOUT DENYING MY DAUGHTER THE OPPORTUNITY TO BELIEVE IN SANTA (as it seems to be the standard belief that Santa is the only magical thing about xmas). SHE IS MORE THAN WELCOME TO BELIEVE IF SHE WANTS TO, BUT WE WON'T BE ENCOURAGING OR PUSHING HER TO.

Person_one

notanewuser wrote: »

I'm going to say this once more, and in nice big letters

THIS IS NOT ABOUT DENYING MY DAUGHTER THE OPPORTUNITY TO BELIEVE IN SANTA (as it seems to be the standard belief that Santa is the only magical thing about xmas). SHE IS MORE THAN WELCOME TO BELIEVE IF SHE WANTS TO, BUT WE WON'T BE ENCOURAGING OR PUSHING HER TO.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Etiquette_(technology)

OrkneyStar

Eton_Rifle wrote: »

Yes, who needs charity and thinking of others? It's all about me.

Charity and compassion can be done without the whole 'santa' thing.

OrkneyStar

Person_one wrote: »

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Etiquette_(technology)

This link doesn't seem to work.

seven-day-weekend

I have told someone a lie today, not even a white lie, I just could not think what to say at the time.

I said my husband was unavailable to speak to her (a relation), on the phone, when basically he didn't want to speak to her at that time because he was feeling quite anxious (he suffers from anxiety). So far so good, not a lie. She then said, 'Oh right, what's he doing then?' and I couldn't think quickly enough to say 'oh nothing much, he will call you back' (also not a lie), and said he was having his hair cut. He had just come in from having his hair cut, but it was still a lie.

So there, I have confessed.

Person_one

OrkneyStar wrote: »

This link doesn't seem to work.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netiquette#Netiquette

Person_one

seven-day-weekend wrote: »

I have told someone a lie today, not even a white lie, I just could not think what to say at the time.

I said my husband was unavailable to speak to her (a relation), on the phone, when basically he didn't want to speak to her at that time because he was feeling quite anxious (he suffers from anxiety). So far so good, not a lie. She then said, 'Oh right, what's he doing then?' and I couldn't think quickly enough to say 'oh nothing much, he will call you back' (also not a lie), and said he was having his hair cut. He had just come in from having his hair cut, but it was still a lie.

So there, I have confessed.

Do you think it would have been better to tell the truth in that situation?

"He's here, but he doesn't want to talk to you, bye then!"

You told a white lie, the world will not end and your soul is not damned, get over it!