grandparents finding grandchildren difficult

thatgirlsam

Mado wrote: »

At long last someone with the same experience I have....:rotfl:

There is no holding point for a child next to the set as and apart from the poles, all other secure points are overhead.
It's the same way in nearly all the underground/metro types of transport I have ever used.
Have people really never been in the tube or equivalent?

I was thinking the exact same thing! Maybe the experience of going on the tube would change a few minds! Once you've had my 7 year old land in your lap you might prefer to stand anyway

Torry_Quine

thatgirlsam wrote: »

You've not seen the size of my 7 year old. So you would like me to be squashed by my child.. I take it you gave up respecting other adults?

Years since I've been on a bus but are you even allowed to stand these days??

Of course you are allowed to stand on a bus, it tells you how many actually. I at least said I know nothing of the tube.

Why would you be squashed by your child? People stand in the centre of the bus and hold on.

POPPYOSCAR

How on earth did a thread about grandchildren and grandparents turn into one pages long about children giving up their seat for an adult!!

Mado

POPPYOSCAR wrote: »

How on earth did a thread about grandchildren and grandparents turn into one pages long about children giving up their seat for an adult!!

The clash of generations?
The divide is reasonably clear.

thatgirlsam

Torry_Quine wrote: »

Of course you are allowed to stand on a bus, it tells you how many actually. I at least said I know nothing of the tube.

Why would you be squashed by your child? People stand in the centre of the bus and hold on.

What age of child would you expect to stand for you?

maman

Marmaduke123 wrote: »

I do dislike it though when large secondary age children going home from school on the bus, often in groups, appear oblivious of the fact that elderly people, sometimes with sticks, are having to stand.

I was brought up to offer a seat to anyone who looks like they need it whether it be an elderly person, pregnant woman or whatever and I still do. I must say though that your post made me remember the days when I used to catch a bus home from school. Elderly ladies would elbow us out of the way to push to the front of the queue (setting a dreadful example). I wondered, even then, why if they've got all day to shop why the would choose to go home just when schools are finishing.

Torry_Quine wrote: »

Of course showing a child respect is different to an adult, I would be extremely surprised to think otherwise.

I didn't quite understand this. Ideally, adults would show children respect and so earn respect back which works both ways. Obviously on a bus/tube you won't know the people personally so the respect would run to the child offering a seat and the adult saying thank you. I know many people behave badly (could you imagine a few years ago we'd need signs telling us to keep our feet off seats!) but I think the best way forward is to behave in a respectful, polite way and hope it's infectious!

Torry_Quine

thatgirlsam wrote: »

What age of child would you expect to stand for you?

If too old to sit on the adult's lap then they are old enough to stand up, unless some medical condition. Sadly having read this thread I expect nothing but live in hope.

POPPYOSCAR

Mado wrote: »

The clash of generations?
The divide is reasonably clear.

But this is off topic and has been for some time.

thatgirlsam

Torry_Quine wrote: »

If too old to sit on the adult's lap then they are old enough to stand up, unless some medical condition. Sadly having read this thread I expect nothing but live in hope.

You can live in hope that someone will find you superior enough to deserve a seat more than them.

I live in hope that children, and/or anyone else, can be seen as valuable members of society and not second class citizens.

I'm out. Off down south now to take my 'scrotes' to Bath Christmas market, hopefully they won't disrespect anyone while they're there.;)

Nicki

Torry_Quine wrote: »

If too old to sit on the adult's lap then they are old enough to stand up, unless some medical condition. Sadly having read this thread I expect nothing but live in hope.

But how do you come to this conclusion when adults on a moving bus or tube mostly need to hold on to something either all or some of the time to give them stability? Children of the age you are discussing are not tall enough to hold on to most of the available grab handles which are provided for safety because they are overhead mounted. Unless the bus or tube is not particularly crowded, so the child can get access to the ONE central support pole in the middle, then they will most likely fall over on a moving bus or when it starts or stops suddenly and will get hurt, when an adult in the same circumstances would not because they are tall enough to hold on permanently or to grab a support if they feel they are losing their balance.