Proving you HAVEN'T lived somewhere for benefit purposes!

Dunroamin

hum_lovely wrote: »

No just casual arrangement with ad hoc cash payments, and continuing to pay the joint mortgage by direct debit from his bank account.

It just gets better and better!

timbo58

To clarify HMRC and DWP will investigate immediately if he sticks to the version of events given here: the DWP will investigate as it would be reasonable of them to suspect his wife has defrauded them and he is a significant party to this fraud.

The HMRC will investigate (as another poster stated they are like a 'dog with a bone' when they do) as he will be forced to disclose his landlord(s) details and any income they have not declared: he would be a party to that 'fraud' also.

We then have the non disclosure of change of address from several other organisations who may wish to start looking at him: the insurance companies, the DVLC, local councils, TV licensing (unless he lives as part of the landlords household he requires his own TV licence).

He is damned if he does and damned of he doesn't should all these non disclosures come to light frankly.

It's just not careless or being a bit 'laid back' IMHO it's almost akin to pretending to be 'the fugitive' or the bloke from 'the 39 steps'!

nannytone_2

Dunroamin wrote: »

It just gets better and better!

just hope it isnt paid from a joint bank account ....

couldnt be ... no ones that daft!

BurnleyBob

lighting_up_the_chalice wrote: »

Because she is the mother of his children, a woman he loved enough to marry and doesn't want to throw to the dogs now?

I'd give in if the opening line had read differently. Something like, 'would like to help prove'. But what was written suggested that he was the one in the wrong.

lighting_up_the_chalice

BurnleyBob wrote: »

I'd give in if the opening line had read differently. Something like, 'would like to help prove'. But what was written suggested that he was the one in the wrong.

I think that whichever way you bake it, he's in the wrong.

princessdon

Ok now we have some honesty lets have more

Does he live with you?

Are you on benefits and should declare this?

If he DOES live with you and you are not on benefits then I have some ideas as to what can provide some evidence (although it is stacked against you).

The ideas I have is based on my OH and I living apart (although a couple) so I know what goes to his work based address even though all his main come here.

This would all be mute if it started an investigation via you for benefits fraud of course.

BurnleyBob

rogerblack wrote: »

In principle, a data protection request to the mobile phone company may reveal details of which cell-sites the phone has been logged into at which times.
Similarly, I believe this is logged for outgoing and incoming calls in their internal systems.

If HMRC is the all seeing eye that they are said to be then they'll have easy access to anyone's telecommunications data because since 2008 an endless list of public bodies have been able to.

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/2007/10/28/storm-over-new-snooping-law-91466-20019020/

timbo58

To be fair the HMRC et al don't have to check anything regarding phone location in this case.

Since it is perfectly reasonable for the various bodies who are investigating any perceived fraud to assume that the person in question is still living at the 'ex's' home he shares ownership of, especially given the body of evidence that currently supports this, they won't even entertain checking anything as 'out of the norm' as phone location records, nor should they to be fair.

HM taxpayers are liable to get very miffed if they heard of stories in the press where HMRC frittered away their funds on what would almost certainly be seen as a frivolous pursuit of the evidence required to offset what would seem to be the overwhelmingly damning evidence against the person concerned.
It's about as sensible an option of getting the local CID to dust both houses for prints/fibre samples to prove which house has the most forensic evidence he resides there.

Ms_Chocaholic

No one has mentioned CSA and maintenance payments; have CSA been involved at all?

Ms_Chocaholic

Another thought .... did he buy any new furniture for his new place, such as a sofa, could there be a bill showing it was delivered to him at his own address