Proving you HAVEN'T lived somewhere for benefit purposes!

thorsoak

hum_lovely wrote: »

Hands in the air time - I am the 'new' girlfriend (of
almost two years). We have been on holiday together twice. He is not sure about the passport but I would guess it would have gone to wifey's address....and yes, we can both see exactly why you all think it's a wind up, we are seeing it as more and more unbelievable ourselves as your questions are making us consider the aspects. He is not a 'paper work' fan and thought it easier to leave as is as when address changed on one thing would need changing on another....

And as you see, it isn't.

Your BF and his wife have a lot of explaining to do - and he's going to learn the expensive way that he should have dealt with things properly when and if he left!

nannytone_2

i dont see that proof of taking a 2 holidays with another person over a period of 8 years, is going to help at all.
there is layer upon layer of evidence linking him not only to the ex wifes property, bnut to the ex wife as well.

the fact that he went on holiday with another woman twice, proves nothing

if i was the wife, i wouldnt have let the ex husband use my address, so she is eqyally to blame for this mess.

look on the bright side, he'll only oew half... the other half is owed by his ex wife

hum_lovely

timbo58 wrote: »

He must be the unluckiest man/most careless man alive in my opinion I'm afraid.
He is truly screwed from every angle I can see if what the OP has said is true, frankly because of all the pitfalls that are awaiting him from the HMRC and DWP fraud if his story IS correct (i.e. due to non declaration of everything short of membership to the communist party !!!!!!) he is actually far more likely to be in a better position to simply pay up for the 8 years of 'living with his wife'.

Timbo can you clarify what you mean by pitfalls awaiting him fro HMRC and DWP? He hasn't avoided tax ie NI and Income tax so not sure what you mean...?

BurnleyBob

After wading through 50-something messages, it seems that no-one paid attention to the first sentence in the opening post.

'A friend needs to prove that he hasn't lived with his wife for the last 8 years while she has been claiming working tax credits (two children)'.

Why does he have to prove he wasn't living there? Surely, as she was claiming the Tax Credits, it's she who needs to convince the authorities that he wasn't there.

nannytone_2

tax credits are adminstered by HMRC,
and if the ex wife has claimed any benefits for herself over the past 8 years .... these too would be seen as fraudulent of they are found to haave been a couple.
likewise with councyk rax benefit

rogerblack

hum_lovely wrote: »

MObile phone is paid by work......he is a man who likes the simple route so not keen on over complicating matters.....lived at two addresses in the 8 years but both cash for rent and no rent agreements as such. Good point about the reduction in council tax 8 years ago though, that is worth mentioning.

In principle, a data protection request to the mobile phone company may reveal details of which cell-sites the phone has been logged into at which times.
Similarly, I believe this is logged for outgoing and incoming calls in their internal systems.

hum_lovely

BurnleyBob wrote: »

After wading through 50-something messages, it seems that no-one paid attention to the first sentence in the opening post.

'A friend needs to prove that he hasn't lived with his wife for the last 8 years while she has been claiming working tax credits (two children)'.

Why does he have to prove he wasn't living there? Surely, as she was claiming the Tax Credits, it's she who needs to convince the authorities that he wasn't there.

Thanks for this Bob, wife has received a call from HMRC saying they are doing spot checks and wanted to know why she was claiming as single person for last 8 years when he appeared, from 'other sources' to be living there. Assuming these other sources to be
bank statements, car insurance etc ie post that still goes to wife's home. She has asked for his help in proving he does not live there, hence the question to the forum as he does not have anything to prove he lives elsewhere....

nannytone_2

BurnleyBob wrote: »

After wading through 50-something messages, it seems that no-one paid attention to the first sentence in the opening post.

'A friend needs to prove that he hasn't lived with his wife for the last 8 years while she has been claiming working tax credits (two children)'.

Why does he have to prove he wasn't living there? Surely, as she was claiming the Tax Credits, it's she who needs to convince the authorities that he wasn't there.

y had noticed that but
the claim is the ex wife's xlaim, so structly speaking she is the one under suspicion.
but if she cant probe he lived elsewhere then they will possibly come to the conclusion that he never left.
which will then make him not neccesarol;y liaanlle for the overpayment, but seen as aiding and abetting a fraud

Poppie68

nannytone wrote: »

i dont see that proof of taking a 2 holidays with another person over a period of 8 years, is going to help at all.


I was trying to be optimistic:rotfl:


Personally i think they are both doomed, both going to be hung by the neck at dawn on christmas day!:D

lighting_up_the_chalice

BurnleyBob wrote: »

After wading through 50-something messages, it seems that no-one paid attention to the first sentence in the opening post.

'A friend needs to prove that he hasn't lived with his wife for the last 8 years while she has been claiming working tax credits (two children)'.

Why does he have to prove he wasn't living there? Surely, as she was claiming the Tax Credits, it's she who needs to convince the authorities that he wasn't there.

Because she is the mother of his children, a woman he loved enough to marry and doesn't want to throw to the dogs now?