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Ford TDCI Hell - require advice

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  • forgotmyname
    forgotmyname Posts: 32,917 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper
    Its the .. It only needs servicing every 20,000 miles and i do 4000 a year so one service every 4 or 6 years is more than enough..

    Same with manufacturers figures, They are the maximum, So why do people treat is as a target? 12,000? hey i hit 11,999. 96. Brilliant eh.

    Err no. Oil changes at half that or 6 months which ever is 1st.

    The manufacturers figures are ideal for fleets and companies that want to spend as little as possible on servicing their fleet.
    Censorship Reigns Supreme in Troll City...

  • steve-L
    steve-L Posts: 12,981 Forumite
    I've found this thread by accident. Is there an update to the story? Was the £2,100 bill settled? Any luck with cutting that service manager of this rogue dealership down to size?

    This thread should be pinned!!! SO basically not only are 2005 Ford/PSA diesels lemon engines but any diesels after Euro 4 are unreliable expensive pieces of junk!! Graham? I drive a 2001 306 2.0Hdi, so far it has been good for 10 years of motoring - touch wood. This is the first I've heard of modern diesels being best avoided. I knew cars with DPF's were a waste of time but this is worse!

    The 2.0 is a completely different engine to the 1.6.
    The engines are fine. Count all the bad stories and then you realise this is a tiny percentage of the numbers sold.
    No they really are not. The 1.6 duratorq is a dog.
    Did you actually read the TSB?
  • the 1.6 duratorq is flagged by turbo companies as a no warranty offered on any 1.6 TDCI pug engine turbo unless other works to complete and prevent the cause of the failure can be produced to the turbo companies via a detailed garage invoice.

    the replacement upgraded engine is £2k plus from ford/pug.
    personally would avoid any 1.6 duratorq and even get rid of quickly if one was given to me via family.
  • Hi OP, sorry to hear of your problem. Sounds like a complete nightmare. Could you just confirm, do you have the 1.6tdci or the 1.8?
  • JQ.
    JQ. Posts: 1,919 Forumite
    Hi OP, sorry to hear of your problem. Sounds like a complete nightmare. Could you just confirm, do you have the 1.6tdci or the 1.8?

    I'd also be interested in which engine this relates to, as my wife has a 2005 Focus Cmax 1.8 TDCi which will be approaching 60,000 miles quite soon.
  • not know this to happen with the 1.8 TDI unit. its just the 1.6 pug engine
  • gabitzul
    gabitzul Posts: 299 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 100 Posts Combo Breaker
    The 1.8 TDCI is an evolution of the (very!) old Lynx based lump. It is a Ford unit and not too bad reliability wise.
  • gabitzul wrote: »
    The 1.8 TDCI is an evolution of the (very!) old Lynx based lump. It is a Ford unit and not too bad reliability wise.

    I hear that altho the Lynx is very robust (some refer to it as 'bomb proof'), there have been some quite concerning clutch issues in relation to the DMF setup this sort of engine needs due to the high torque. With bills often close to the £1k mark for replacement, plus potential starter motor damage. But that is a worrying discussion for another thread!!!
  • gabitzul
    gabitzul Posts: 299 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 100 Posts Combo Breaker
    I hear that altho the Lynx is very robust (some refer to it as 'bomb proof'), there have been some quite concerning clutch issues in relation to the DMF setup this sort of engine needs due to the high torque. With bills often close to the £1k mark for replacement, plus potential starter motor damage. But that is a worrying discussion for another thread!!!

    No idea about the DMF failures; these will also be related a lot to the driving style and type of journeys (urban ones will mean the clutch is used a lot more etc).

    Saying that, the 1.6 is just a bad bad engine and no matter how careful etc you are it will still fail. Not a matter of if but when.
  • iolanthe07
    iolanthe07 Posts: 5,493 Forumite
    Can anyone recommend me a good family vehicle which is economical and good value

    Anything Japanese or Korean. I have had Far Eastern cars since the early nineties and never get any problems with them. They might not be the most exciting cars in the world, but (apart, apparently, for the last generation Micra), they do tend to be pretty bomb proof.
    I used to think that good grammar is important, but now I know that good wine is importanter.
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