Nexus 4 - Google aggressive on price

mrochester

MillicentBystander wrote: »

Time will tell. In fact, I thought it already was telling?

You're confusing market share with sales and profits. You need to look at profits to see who is making a success of things.

Fifer

mrochester wrote: »

You're confusing market share with sales and profits. You need to look at profits to see who is making a success of things.

You need to look at sales, profits and market share over a period to see who is making a success of things.

mrochester

Fifer wrote: »

You need to look at sales, profits and market share over a period to see who is making a success of things.

Profits are really the only measure of success as the primary aim of business. If you make the most profits, you are the most successful in your field. Selling bucket loads of stuff but making no money doesn't make you successful because you aren't actually achieving what you as a business you've set out to do.

cgk1

Right, RIM sells high volumes of phones but those are sold at near cost and the business is losing money hand over fist.

The only two players who currently matter in Mobile are Samsung and Apple, the rest are also-rans who couldn't find profit if it ran up behind them.

mrochester

cgk1 wrote: »

Right, RIM sells high volumes of phones but those are sold at near cost and the business is losing money hand over fist.

The only two players who currently matter in Mobile are Samsung and Apple, the rest are also-rans who couldn't find profit if it ran up behind them.

Exactly. I guess it just goes to highlight how terrifically lousy the competition is .

Fifer

mrochester wrote: »

Profits are really the only measure of success as the primary aim of business. If you make the most profits, you are the most successful in your field. Selling bucket loads of stuff but making no money doesn't make you successful because you aren't actually achieving what you as a business you've set out to do.

I sincerely hope any business you rely upon for income or employment never focuses on profit alone.

mrochester

Fifer wrote: »

I sincerely hope your business never focuses on profit alone.

I think I'd rather focus on how to make a profit if I were running a business .

Fifer

mrochester wrote: »

I think I'd rather focus on how to make a profit if I were running a business .

As would I. But not to the exception of other key business indicators. That way lies ruin.

mrochester

Fifer wrote: »

As would I. But not to the exception of other key business indicators. That way lies ruin.

Of course not, but if you get the other things right, you will make a profit. Do it wrong and you won't.

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What's interesting is how O2 is pricing it. They obviously can't make it too cheap - it's a 'flagship' phone on a par with the Samsung Galaxy S3 yet £200 cheaper. If they priced it £10 a month less on a contract - who in their right mind would get an S3 anymore?

Now, i suspect O2 would make far more money on an S3 than selling a Nexus 4.

So, you'll see O2, then probably vodaphone also, skewing the price of Nexus 4 on a contract well above the 'real' cost.