Nexus 4 - Google aggressive on price

MillicentBystander

mrochester wrote: »

Yeah if I were the likes of HTC or Motorola or LG I'd be very worried right about now.

LG make the nexus 4 but I know what you were 'trying' to get at . I was talking about ALL competition. Difficult for all the others when you are up against a massive player who doesn't need to make a profit from its hardware. It's certainly going to get interesting in the next 12-18 months....

mrochester

MillicentBystander wrote: »

LG make the nexus 4 but I know what you were 'trying' to get at . I was talking about ALL competition. Difficult for all the others when you are up against a massive player who doesn't need to make a profit from its hardware. It's certainly going to get interesting in the next 12-18 months....

Well I think it's the other manufacturers who use Android that'll suffer the most as they're products are all much of a muchness. Those who have something different to offer will be less affected.

Fifer

mrochester wrote: »

The amount of money Apple make from the App Store is entirely dependent on how much developers choose to sell their apps for. That in turn could mean Apple make either a loss, break even, or make a profit. Whether it does or not is not Apple's decision. That fierce competition between developers happens to work in Apple's favour is just coincidence.

Of course it is Apple's decision. They run the store and set the rates they charge. But for the record, I'm not having a go at Apple. I'm merely pointing out that they use the same business tactics as Amazon, Google and all the main network operators and I don't believe those tactics do stifle innovation. In many cases I'd argue the complete opposite.

mrochester

Fifer wrote: »

Of course it is Apple's decision. They run the store and set the rates they charge. But for the record, I'm not having a go at Apple. I'm merely pointing out that they use the same business tactics as Amazon, Google and all the main network operators and I don't believe those tactics do stifle innovation. In many cases I'd argue the complete opposite.

It's the developers who decide how much to charge for an app, not Apple.

Rusty!

But Apple decide what their cut is

mrochester

Rusty! wrote: »

But Apple decide what their cut is

Correct, but they aren't pricing the product themselves like Google and Amazon are, which is the whole point!

Fifer

mrochester wrote: »

Correct, but they aren't pricing the product themselves like Google and Amazon are, which is the whole point!

No-one said they were. But they are setting their prices/charges at a level which barely covers their costs. Just as Google, Amazon and mobile companies do with hardware.

mrochester

Fifer wrote: »

No-one said they were. But they are setting their prices/charges at a level which barely covers their costs. Just as Google, Amazon and mobile companies do with hardware.

But that doesn't restrict the competition because the competition is between the app developers. In contrast, if the rumours that Google are selling the Nexus 4 at cost are true, it makes it impossible for a company such as HTC to compete as HTC don't have the luxury of being able to fall back on gigantic advertising or content revenue to subsidise the sale of hardware. This squeezes HTC, and thus competition, out of the market.

MillicentBystander

mrochester wrote: »

Well I think it's the other manufacturers who use Android that'll suffer the most as they're products are all much of a muchness. Those who have something different to offer will be less affected.

Time will tell. In fact, I thought it already was telling?

MikeCSheff

thegoodman wrote: »

It seem Google is moving more and more towards its own devices, like iPhone. The Samsung have helped Android to become popular with Galaxy range but Google have under cut S3 and a few HTC phones by around £200. I am sure sales of S3 will go down unless Samsung cut the price as well.
It would be difficult to justify buying S3 or HTC X. Why would you pay extra £200 for Sd card or bit more memory?
For most 8 or 16 GB of memory would be enough.

For the price, this is amazing - although I would prefer a 32GB model. The 8GB model will probably only have about 5GB free for user storage (because of the Internal Memory partition and system partions). This isn't much if you intend to use it to store music and video.

I wonder if we'll see the 8GB model scapped and top spec upped to 32GB in a few months (as they did with Nexus 7)