MSE News: Welfare reforms 'to hit disabled'

LunaLady

Thats not exactly the same as what you were advocating is it.

The LCP is used when patients are dying, in the last few hours/days of life. You suggested bumping people off when they get to be a burden.

Dunroamin

keet83 wrote: »

Never said it was 'bury bad news', I was just explaining to Zebra's comment about how there were no facts to back up this assertion.

This thread is not about student loans so you would be better posting your opinions about the student loans on a dofferent post. I believe you are trying to be awkward after your previous comments.

I think there's a troll stalking around here, use this reply to feed on too

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plum2002

Hmm the Daily Fail and the Torygraph

plum2002

But these people would be kept artificially alive otherwise? If they would live without the machines then they don't need them, if they wouldn't then they would have no life anyway? It's not exactly giving them the death injection.

rogerblack

LunaLady wrote: »

I have no problem with the idea of Euthanasia

<Daily mail>
But they should stay in Asia!
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red_me

Heres a headline from daily mail today National service for pensioners

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2222383/Retired-people-pension-docked-refuse-community-work-says-mandarin-retired-Whitehall-aged-54.html

Can't get them when there at working age (working all there life), lets get them when there getting the state pension.

plum2002

What about those who have paid tax and NI for 40 years?

dori2o

topaziem wrote: »

Wow!!!! Someone is waking up and smelling the coffee!!!

About time to. As I have said before pensioners are the worst for taking more out than putting in.
This sort of idea will sort them out - those that can work will work, those that can't will have to prove it on a regular basis if they want a regular pension handout!

They get to 65 and expect at least an income from benefits of over £200 a week for life with nothing being given in return.

This makes me very happy to see that common sense prevails at last.

Yes, what a great idea. So then there would be even more people fighting for what few jobs there are.

A better idea would be to prevent those pensioners who have sufficient income from working, bringing back the compulsory retirement age. That would provide more jobs for the market meaning the younger generations would get the chance to come off benefits and begin work.

Heycock

dori2o wrote: »

Yes, what a great idea. So then there would be even more people fighting for what few jobs there are.

A better idea would be to prevent those pensioners who have sufficient income from working, bringing back the compulsory retirement age. That would provide more jobs for the market meaning the younger generations would get the chance to come off benefits and begin work.

Do you mean "sufficient income" to live, or "sufficient income" to exist? Apart from the fortunate few, mostly those who still have final salary pensions and we know who they are, a more than substantial number of pensioners were never able to join a pension scheme while others had their previously good company schemes destroyed by Gordon Brown's attack on Dividend relief.
Don't pensioners have the same right to live as opposed to merely exist as the young?

Dunroamin

Heycock wrote: »

Do you mean "sufficient income" to live, or "sufficient income" to exist? Apart from the fortunate few, mostly those who still have final salary pensions and we know who they are, a more than substantial number of pensioners were never able to join a pension scheme while others had their previously good company schemes destroyed by Gordon Brown's attack on Dividend relief.

Do we?.....