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MSE News: Welfare reforms 'to hit disabled'

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  • Dunroamin
    Dunroamin Posts: 16,908 Forumite
    keet83 wrote: »
    The one that came into power this academic year, it was assumed that the interest was RPI + 3%, where as a matter of fact it turned out that that was not completely true, it depends on the amount of income you receive to how much interest is added on.

    Considering the change was that some students will be paying less interest than expected, it's hardly a case of burying bad news.
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    The Personal Independence Payment (PIP) will be introduced from April 2013. It will replace Disability Living Allowance for people of working age. Between October 2013 and April 2016 all existing working age claimants of Disability Living Allowance will be migrated on to PIP. As part of this process the vast majority will be expected to have a fresh medical examination.

    The Personal Independence Payment will have two components:

    § a daily living component paid at two rates
    - standard rate: if a person’s ability to carry out daily living activities is limited by their physical or mental condition.



    - enhanced rate: if a person’s ability to carry out daily living activities is severely limited by their physical or mental condition.


    § a mobility component paid at two rates
    - standard rate: if the person’s ability to carry out mobility activities is limited by their physical or mental condition






    - enhanced rate: if the person’s ability to carry out mobility activities is severely limited by their physical or mental condition


    The period condition for PIP requires that the care and/or mobility conditions for payment have to have been met for a period of at least 6 months prior to claim being made and will be met for a likely period of at least 6 months after the claim is made. Presently for Disability Living Allowance the rule is that the conditions must be met for a period of 3 months prior to the claim being made and for a period of 6 months after the claim was made.

    Presently people may qualify for the Disability Living Allowance care component at any one of three different rates where they need help with their personal care, and the mobility component at any one of two different rates for their mobility needs. The actual rate of care component they are paid depends on the nature and frequency and/or duration of the help they need. The actual rate of the mobility component is dependent on the difficulties and limitations of a person’s mobility. Under PIP the level of a person’s entitlement (if any) will be determined according to a point score system.

    People with a ‘terminal illness’ automatically receive the daily living component enhanced rate and will not have to satisfy the period condition for the mobility component. This is the same as the rules presently for DLA care and mobility.

    The Personal Independence Payment like DLA will not be paid to people in care homes (except for the mobility component), hospitals or prison.

    All existing Disability Living Allowance claimants of working age (many who will have been given indefinite/life-time awards) will be invited to claim the Personal Independence Payment by letter. They will be expected to make a telephone claim and will be assessed under the new PIP criteria for PIP payment. Those failing to respond to the invitation to claim PIP or failing the new test will not get any benefit. Most will, as stated, be required to under go a medical with a DWP health professional as part of the claiming process.

    The fewer disabled people who qualify for PIP or have an award of PIP that is below Disability Living Allowance levels (and/or Employment & Support Allowance), the more people will become dependent on local authorities for adult social care services. Fewer awards (or smaller awards) of PIP over Disability Living Allowance will reduce local authorities revenue from charging. The measures will also impact on the position of carers. This is because carer’s income will often be co-dependent on a disabled person’s entitlement to PIP (as it is now co-dependent on Disability Living Allowance).


    The government estimates that 20% of current DLA claimants will lose out. Some have estimated that up to c50% of current DLA claimants will either receive a lower award of PIP than current DLA or lose entitlement to DLA completely.
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  • debrag
    debrag Posts: 3,426 Forumite
    edited 23 October 2012 at 5:37PM
    LunaLady wrote: »
    Wow, just wow.

    I know someone who feels that if he was ever in a wheelchair he'd want to be killed!

    I do believe that people should have the right to die though, people who are 'vegetables' who have already, with witnesses, stated this, not just you're such a such age, on benefits with a disability therefore we will put you down.
  • Poppie68
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    MUMZ2BEE wrote: »
    Why cant the MP's who have just awarded themselves a payrise, try and live a week on benefits and see how they cope?

    My husband has NOT had a payrise from his employer for a mere 3 years, and I think MP's have a bloody cheek giving themselves a payrise!!

    And why do MP's keep picking on disabled people!!??


    MUMZBEE - You dont' just live on benefits though, you have a partner that works and one of your previous threads state you recieve £800 per month in benefits...That is a fulltime wage for some people.
  • topaziem wrote: »
    That is old news and gives no up to date info.

    To you and I, it probably is. However, it clearly is not for many or they would not be asking question regarding the changes.

    I have yet to see anything worthwhile posted by your good self!

    If you are not interested, then just ignore, as the majority of level headed intelligent people do to you.
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  • princessdon
    princessdon Posts: 6,902 Forumite
    MUMZ2BEE wrote: »
    Why cant the MP's who have just awarded themselves a payrise, try and live a week on benefits and see how they cope?

    My husband has NOT had a payrise from his employer for a mere 3 years, and I think MP's have a bloody cheek giving themselves a payrise!!

    And why do MP's keep picking on disabled people!!??

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  • keet83
    keet83 Posts: 226 Forumite
    Dunroamin wrote: »
    Considering the change was that some students will be paying less interest than expected, it's hardly a case of burying bad news.

    Never said it was 'bury bad news', I was just explaining to Zebra's comment about how there were no facts to back up this assertion.

    This thread is not about student loans so you would be better posting your opinions about the student loans on a dofferent post. I believe you are trying to be awkward after your previous comments.

    I think there's a troll stalking around here, use this reply to feed on too :)

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  • LunaLady
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    debrag wrote: »
    I know someone who feels that if he was ever in a wheelchair he'd want to be killed!

    I do believe that people should have the right to die though, people who are 'vegetables' who have already, with witnesses, stated this, not just you're such a such age, on benefits with a disability therefore we will put you down.

    I have no problem with the idea of Euthanasia, in a properly controlled environment with the absolute consent of the person.

    However I dont think this was what was being suggested. I have a problem with the suggestion that when people become a burden on others it should be okay to end their life.
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  • debrag
    debrag Posts: 3,426 Forumite
    LunaLady wrote: »
    I have no problem with the idea of Euthanasia, in a properly controlled environment with the absolute consent of the person.

    However I dont think this was what was being suggested. I have a problem with the suggestion that when people become a burden on others it should be okay to end their life.

    Oh I agree, having the 'right' to die rather than being told they no long have the 'right' to live, which others seemed to be suggesting.
  • seven-day-weekend
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