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MSE News: Welfare reforms 'to hit disabled'

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  • Bykerlass wrote: »
    I am tempted to say "so be it" but I would then be as morally inept as he is.

    I find it repugnant that we as a supposed civilised society can be so discriminatory. Have we learnt nothing?

    Wouldn't worry about Andy. He's only here to scare and frustrate people. It's the same pattern of behaviour.. go quiet for a while.. reappear under new username.. sound like you know what you're talking about... make some provocative statements and scare claimants with misinformation (two very good examples in last couple days).. deny being Andy... deny it a bit more.. finally admit it.. joke about it... vanish... and back to square one. Andy will say whatever he thinks will get him attention... if that means advocating his own state sanctioned murder then that'll do..lol.
    "Do not attribute to conspiracy what can adequately be explained by incompetence" - rogerblack
  • Dunroamin
    Dunroamin Posts: 16,908 Forumite
    keet83 wrote: »
    It's interesting when filling out application forms online that don't allow you to select more than one of the listed disabilities, have to put other and explain it's both epilepsy and dyslexia.

    Interesting how the Grammar Police seem to judge everyone by their literature skills alone

    There have been several comments on here about disability coming out of the blue and affecting anyone, so it was quite reasonable to assume that this was what you meant by "unforseen" disabilities.

    You can't expect people to be mind readers and know that you actually mean something completely different when you use a word, I'm afraid.
  • keet83
    keet83 Posts: 226 Forumite
    Dunroamin wrote: »
    There have been several comments on here about disability coming out of the blue and affecting anyone, so it was quite reasonable to assume that this was what you meant by "unforseen" disabilities.

    You can't expect people to be mind readers and know that you actually mean something completely different when you use a word, I'm afraid.

    You can't expect me to believe you after you came along with the comment, I quote

    "Interesting...."

    after I'd corrected myself and explained what I meant.
    Using sarcasm to try make yourself seem smarter than others doesn't work, especially when you try and wriggle back out of it.
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  • Zebra
    Zebra Posts: 6,702 Forumite
    Typical scaremongering headline.

    No facts to back up the assertion but rumour and conjecture.

    Designed simply to worry people.

    An article that even a Daily Star journalist would disown through embarrassment.

    Poor. Very poor.
  • keet83
    keet83 Posts: 226 Forumite
    Zebra wrote: »
    Typical scaremongering headline.

    No facts to back up the assertion but rumour and conjecture.

    Designed simply to worry people.

    An article that even a Daily Star journalist would disown through embarrassment.

    Poor. Very poor.

    If you prepare for the worst, you'll always be ready.

    I've looked at all the info from the government's website and it's very vague, we don't know what will happen, it's the same as this ESA and the student loans issue.
    [STRIKE]Beggars cant be choosers, but savers can![/STRIKE]
    That used to be the case :mad:
  • Wouldn't worry about Andy. He's only here to scare and frustrate people. It's the same pattern of behaviour.. go quiet for a while.. reappear under new username.. sound like you know what you're talking about... make some provocative statements and scare claimants with misinformation (two very good examples in last couple days).. deny being Andy... deny it a bit more.. finally admit it.. joke about it... vanish... and back to square one. Andy will say whatever he thinks will get him attention... if that means advocating his own state sanctioned murder then that'll do..lol.

    Yes I think you are absolutely right. I rarely comment when I read such comments and expressed views as I believe as you rightly point out that they are really written for a desired effect. I don't like to encourage people like this. Sometimes though I feel really dismayed and astonished that even for effect people can write such hurtful comments. Do they ever stop to think the impact that such comments can have on already vulnerable and scared people? People who for whatever reasons are unable to see it for what it is. I guess they should be pitied really, for they are clearly incapable of feeling compassion or empathy to those less fortunate.
    I USED TO BE INDECISIVE BUT NOW I'M NOT SO SURE!

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  • Bykerlass wrote: »
    Yes I think you are absolutely right. I rarely comment when I read such comments and expressed views as I believe as you rightly point out that they are really written for a desired effect. I don't like to encourage people like this. Sometimes though I feel really dismayed and astonished that even for effect people can write such hurtful comments. Do they ever stop to think the impact that such comments can have on already vulnerable and scared people? People who for whatever reasons are unable to see it for what it is. I guess they should be pitied really, for they are clearly incapable of feeling compassion or empathy to those less fortunate.

    I suspect that medical or benefit award information about the person would be quite revealing. But let's just say this type of behaviour is classical of a particular personality disorder. I can't go further due to site rules..lol.
    "Do not attribute to conspiracy what can adequately be explained by incompetence" - rogerblack
  • ani_26
    ani_26 Posts: 3,700 Forumite
    Zebra wrote: »
    Typical scaremongering headline.

    No facts to back up the assertion but rumour and conjecture.

    Designed simply to worry people.

    An article that even a Daily Star journalist would disown through embarrassment.

    Poor. Very poor.


    Designed simply to worry people. It certainly does that.

    http://www.leftfootforward.org/2012/10/hardest-hit-tipping-point-report/


    The fact remains, £19bn, £29bn, all the figures which are being thrown around the arena, benefits are being cut, and it's certainly not for the benefit, ( scuse pun,) of those at the end of the conveyor belt.


    Never mind. The rich are being targeted next? Whoever they are?



    For the record, i don't have any political allegiances.
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  • Bykerlass
    Bykerlass Posts: 941 Forumite
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    I suspect that medical or benefit award information about the person would be quite revealing. But let's just say this type of behaviour is classical of a particular personality disorder. I can't go further due to site rules..lol.

    I'm with you on that one :)
    I USED TO BE INDECISIVE BUT NOW I'M NOT SO SURE!

    Rich people tell you that money doesn't bring you happiness just so the poor people don't feel jealous.
  • MUMZ2BEE
    MUMZ2BEE Posts: 381 Forumite
    Why cant the MP's who have just awarded themselves a payrise, try and live a week on benefits and see how they cope?

    My husband has NOT had a payrise from his employer for a mere 3 years, and I think MP's have a bloody cheek giving themselves a payrise!!

    And why do MP's keep picking on disabled people!!??
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