URGENT: Any Bridal Gallery Group brides (north west)?

luckyrusty

sexybabe1982 wrote: »

Sparkly Tiara,

Can I just echo the above post - Nadene has been a fabulous help to me, and other brides, throughout this and her offer is an extremely welcome one to us brides who have had sleepless nights and buckets of tears since this was all announced.

As said already, nobody has to take Nadene up on her offer but the fact that she is offering us Sophia Tolli brides the same offers available to everyone else PLUS 10% off our gowns to help us, I feel, is extremely generous and I for one am very very grateful!

The facts are - from the Sophia Tolli officials - that The Bridal Group Gallery HAVE NOT paid our deposits to Sophia Tolli, therefore they will need the full amount for dresses nomatter who takes the customers. We will hopefully get our money back through insurance and bank companies, in time.

If you wish to vent your anger, as many of us I'm sure have done and wish to, then Nadene is certainly not the person. Blame the people who have put us in this position, nobody else.

I think the point sparkly tiara was making is that most of the designers aren't expecting to make the bride pay out a full balance again, in fact they are offering for you to pay the remaing balance as long as it covers the cost of the dress, so we don't have to pay twice.
My supplier Venus has been lovely with me and although I've paid the group 50% deposit I'm only paying Venus my remaining balance.

goldwingrider

It is not just a case of pay your balance and theres your dress.

Actually in some circumstances that IS the case, if you're order has been placed by the Bridal Gallery Group with the supplier then some suppliers are only looking to ensure that the wholesale price is covered (this may also apply if the order has not actually been placed but can't confirm that one), many stores ARE helping , in that they are handling these gowns as a favour and not charging anything for doing so i.e. the bride is only paying the wholesale price. As for alterations, surely they could be done at a seamstress of the bride's choice?(therefore not costing you or your staff anything as all you have to do is hand over the gown as it comes to you) Also if you are taking the full cost of the gown -10% that is still way over the wholesale cost of the gown therefore you are profiting from the situation are you not?

For those that do have insurance it can take months to sort out so they will probably have to fork out in the meantime, and for those who do not have insurance and did not pay by credit card, do you really think that paying 90% of the gown plus whatever they have already paid in deposits is fair under the circumstances?

I think sparkly tiara was right to make the point that they did and I still don't see how your offer is actually of any practical use for brides (although I can see from the replies of those defending Nadene's post that it would be worth her while).

jtr2803

luckyrusty wrote: »

I think the point sparkly tiara was making is that most of the designers aren't expecting to make the bride pay out a full balance again, in fact they are offering for you to pay the remaing balance as long as it covers the cost of the dress, so we don't have to pay twice.
My supplier Venus has been lovely with me and although I've paid the group 50% deposit I'm only paying Venus my remaining balance.

Sorry, but I very much doubt that at all.....if Venus have confirmed that the group did NOT pay over your deposit and are actually giving you the dress half price then I think you should count your lucky stars. I hope I am proved wrong but I can't see any designer willing to lose 50% on the sale of each dress, it would cost them a serious amount of money.

All I have seen so far is that some of the designers have received deposits from the Gallery Group and are allowing brides just to pay the balance through another store. I can only go by what people are writing here as I have no direct involvement but designers saying they will try and help seems to be more about sourcing dresses for those with tight deadlines to the wedding date, not agreeing they can have their dress half price....why would they? After all, that's why we have insurance isn't it?

Any besides, the point still stands, if that's the case then great, no one needs to use Nadenes store and everyone is happy. But for those who DO need to rebuy their gowns then it looks like they can make a little saving which will help given the anxiety levels I am sure some are feeling.

goldwingrider

I see what you are saying but the crux is that the suppliers only charge a store "the wholesale price" the rest of what the bride pays to the store is the store's "retail price" set by the store and it is that portion that suppliers and some stores are willing to forego in order to help out. We do live in a cynical age but there are in fact some people (including some of the designers) who are willing to help out at no cost or actually to put a bit of effort in free of charge just because they can and don't want to see brides let down in this way.

sexybabe1982

I can't quite believe they designers are willing to lose 50% of the dress cost to "help", that could cost them thousands of ££ considering how many brides the Bridal Gallery must have!
If the Bridal Gallery group did pay some deposits to suppliers then that's right that brides would only have to pay their balance.
For those suppliers where they've had NO money from the Bridal Gallery then they've got to get their money so therefore brides are having to pay another deposit, but should get this back through their bank or insurance.

luckyrusty

My designer is not loosing on this, or making anything they are supplying the gown to me for the balance I owe, therefore I am not paying twice,or paying full price for the gown which includes the cost price plus profit for the gown that has been paid by me to the bridal gallery group. When a shop buys something they have a wholesale cost and then retail.. I am paying the remaining balance to the designer and all the bridal shop is doing is taking delivery of the gown and paying to my supplier the cost price. It's the bgg which have already taken the profit not the designer.

luckyrusty

sexybabe1982 wrote: »

I can't quite believe they designers are willing to lose 50% of the dress cost to "help", that could cost them thousands of ££ considering how many brides the Bridal Gallery must have!
If the Bridal Gallery group did pay some deposits to suppliers then that's right that brides would only have to pay their balance.
For those suppliers where they've had NO money from the Bridal Gallery then they've got to get their money so therefore brides are having to pay another deposit, but should get this back through their bank or insurance.

It's not the designer who's at fault here, you all seem to think its them asking the brides to pay twice because they can get a refund on the credit card, the designers only want paying for the cost of the dress, and therefore are 100% trying to help the bride rather than gaining any monies. Whether they have ordered your gown or not the designer wants the wholesale cost not the retail!!!

sexybabe1982

luckyrusty wrote: »

It's not the designer who's at fault here, you all seem to think its them asking the brides to pay twice because they can get a refund on the credit card, the designers only want paying for the cost of the dress, and therefore are 100% trying to help the bride rather than gaining any monies. Whether they have ordered your gown or not the designer wants the wholesale cost not the retail!!!

Well my designer, Sophia Tolli, has said that I will need to pay my deposit again to the new bridal shop where my dress is being sent, then the balance when it comes in. So are they wrong to do this? Effectively I'm paying full price plus my initial deposit until I can get it back?x

Sparkly-Tiara

goldwingrider wrote: »

Actually in some circumstances that IS the case, if you're order has been placed by the Bridal Gallery Group with the supplier then some suppliers are only looking to ensure that the wholesale price is covered (this may also apply if the order has not actually been placed but can't confirm that one), many stores ARE helping , in that they are handling these gowns as a favour and not charging anything for doing so i.e. the bride is only paying the wholesale price. As for alterations, surely they could be done at a seamstress of the bride's choice?(therefore not costing you or your staff anything as all you have to do is hand over the gown as it comes to you) Also if you are taking the full cost of the gown -10% that is still way over the wholesale cost of the gown therefore you are profiting from the situation are you not?

For those that do have insurance it can take months to sort out so they will probably have to fork out in the meantime, and for those who do not have insurance and did not pay by credit card, do you really think that paying 90% of the gown plus whatever they have already paid in deposits is fair under the circumstances?

I think sparkly tiara was right to make the point that they did and I still don't see how your offer is actually of any practical use for brides (although I can see from the replies of those defending Nadene's post that it would be worth her while).

Thank you goldwingrider, you have explained far better than i did in my annoyed state. Apologies to anyone who was upset by my post but the point of a forum is to vent and gain explainations, whichever applies to you. I genuinely feel for all those girls and hope you all get sorted.

luckyrusty

sexybabe1982 wrote: »

Well my designer, Sophia Tolli, has said that I will need to pay my deposit again to the new bridal shop where my dress is being sent, then the balance when it comes in. So are they wrong to do this? Effectively I'm paying full price plus my initial deposit until I can get it back?x

Yes you are paying the full price plus your initial deposit (if you can get it back) as this is what the store are asking from you.

It could take months to get any deposit back from your Insurance Company or Bank.

Here it is again:
The Designer need to be paid the wholesale price
The Bridal Gallery Group will not have paid this
The Store who has your gown need to pay the Designer the wholesale price
Anything charged over and above the wholesale price + vat is profit for the store
Brides can take their anywhere to be altered as they would have had to pay The Bridal Gallery Group for alterations

If the gown has not been ordered the Designer will still not ask for anymore than the wholesale price

Therefore the stores who are willing to simply take delivery of the gown for you and pay the Designer their wholesale price are not making any money out of the desperate situation that these Brides find themselves in. These stores are simply trying to help.

Does that all make sense?
Are you a Bride, Sexy Babe and if so which branch of TBGG did you order your gown from and did you pay a deposit to TBGG?