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Ellejmorgan

PaulF81 wrote: »

Spend less and save for a deposit. Failing that, emigrate. No one owes you a life. I saved form4 years for a house, had no mobile phone and drove a 10 year old banger to work despite earnings in the higher rate of tax. Make sacrifices. In real terms housing is cheer now than it was in 2002. Mortgage payments are the lowest they have been on record

Why do I need to buy a house, I have a house...

Show me where I can buy a 4 bed house for £100 pw

Cerisa

PaulF81 -

"I saved form4 years for a house, had no mobile phone and drove a 10 year old banger to work despite earnings in the higher rate of tax. Make sacrifices. In real terms housing is cheer now than it was in 2002. Mortgage payments are the lowest they have been on record"

Yes. If you can save for a deposit, which most people can't. And nowadays, if you don't have a mobile, it makes it impossible to look for work or keep up with colleagues / clients.

I don't have a car, or sky Tv, or tv full stop, because I cannot afford it. I cannot afford to save. I am scraping by, and I am wealthier than many of my friends.

I would suggest you read "6 Things Rich People Should Stop Saying" at Cracked but I doubt you'd actually appreciate it.

I'm going to stop feeding the troll now.

Ellejmorgan

PaulF81 wrote: »

Rubbish. I grew up in Liverpool in a !!!! area and saw what was going on. Endemic self pity re informed by the council and an endemic hatred of Maggie thatcher that was taught from birth. As a result of their gripes, they couldn't self analyse and realise the problems were caused from within and not inflicted from outside. Hence why I left as soon as I got a chance and will never ever go back.

There are lots on the scam. My opinion is the assessment is not getting things wrong 40% of the time, instead the over entitled are getting on their high horse as a result of a government making tough decisions and giving individuals who have been culturally brought to be workshy a desire to appeal.

Being depressed is not a reason to receive dla. I should know as a previous sufferer. Work helped me cope, instead others use it as an excuse to get free cash. Shameful and a travesty to those that have the disorder and get on with their lives at the same time.

You might want to look at the colour of the government that saw the largest running down of our industrial and export base since the industrial revolution.

I will give you a clue. it wasn't a BluE government.

There are different depths and types of depression, you don't get DLA for just being depressed..

DLA is also an in work benefit, I think you are getting a little confused..

System

DLA can open up many valuble doors to support. It can pay for private counselling, it can pay for a carer to help you, it can pay towards medication. ust because you didn't need it doesn't mean others don't. :mad:

I'm glad "work helped you cope" but you can't apply that to everyone. At my worst i could barely function, there was no way i could unction in a job (nor anyone who would employ me)-thankfully ATOS agreed about the risk to mine (and others) health.

PaulF81

Cerisa wrote: »

PaulF81 -

"I saved form4 years for a house, had no mobile phone and drove a 10 year old banger to work despite earnings in the higher rate of tax. Make sacrifices. In real terms housing is cheer now than it was in 2002. Mortgage payments are the lowest they have been on record"

Yes. If you can save for a deposit, which most people can't. And nowadays, if you don't have a mobile, it makes it impossible to look for work or keep up with colleagues / clients.

I don't have a car, or sky Tv, or tv full stop, because I cannot afford it. I cannot afford to save. I am scraping by, and I am wealthier than many of my friends.

I would suggest you read "6 Things Rich People Should Stop Saying" at Cracked but I doubt you'd actually appreciate it.

I'm going to stop feeding the troll now.

Ref the mobile, ever heard of Skype? By using the internet, you must have a landline, so why need a mobile at the same time? People are rich in the main because they work for it and refuse to take no for an answer. Stop being a victim, grow up and make the most of it. No one is owed a living, take the cuts on the chin and get on with it.

Ellejmorgan

PaulF81 wrote: »

If you can't feed 4 mouths on 3.5k then don't have 4 mouths. Keep your legs crossed or practice safe sex.

Middle east and Far East are pretty good for employment, but don't expect any huggy fluffy workplace protections. You warns your cash.

Deposit to buy a house. Why rent when you can buy?

I was employed when I created them..so was hubby..
Why buy a house when I already have one ??

You are now just being vile and idiotic

PaulF81

Ellejmorgan wrote: »

DLA is also an in work benefit, I think you are getting a little confused..

It's a shame the majority of those claiming it don't see it that way.

PaulF81

xXMessedUpXx wrote: »

DLA can open up many valuble doors to support. It can pay for private counselling, it can pay for a carer to help you, it can pay towards medication. ust because you didn't need it doesn't mean others don't. :mad:

I'm glad "work helped you cope" but you can't apply that to everyone. At my worst i could barely function, there was no way i could unction in a job (nor anyone who would employ me)-thankfully ATOS agreed about the risk to mine (and others) health.

You can get completely adequate counselling on the NHS, absolutely no need to have private. Medication as far as i am aware is free on the NHS as are prescriptions for those on benefits so again, why necessary? If its not on prescription, should you be taking it?

Too many people blame "illness" on what are pretty serious personality flaws. Again, people are happier to come up with a condition and blame the big bad state than look inwardly and ask what changes they need to privately make to get on in this life.

Ellejmorgan

PaulF81 wrote: »

It's a shame the majority of those claiming it don't see it that way.

no you are still confused, let me spell it out for you..


In work= can apply for DLA

Out of work= can apply for DLA


It's irrelevant if you work or not for claiming DLA

Cerisa

Or just being reactionary. DLA is an in work benefit designed to help people with disabilities continue to work.

People with clinical depression can be confused, disorientated - can be unable to sleep, can be unable to stay awake. Sometimes they hurt themselves, sometimes they are angry, or unable to deal with the most basic of tasks. I also cracked on with work while suffering clinical depression and wish I hadn't. If the stigma weren't there, it would have been better for me and my employer if I had been able to take the time to get better.

Paul seems to be running through a Daily Mail Prejudice Bingo Card.

Single mums? Check.
Depressed people? Check.
Disabled people? Check.
Self-Entitled? Check.
Workshy? Check.
Socialists? Check.

If he mentions immigrants, full house.