MSE News: George Osborne to make £10bn welfare cuts

PaulF81

Ellejmorgan wrote: »

Backtracking now, yes you did you said 'illness' and the conversation was regarding depression..

If you managed to wait six months for help, you weren't that ill, which is why the poster stated she pays for therapy from DLA, she can't wait 6 months for help..

I would call full blown PTSD with recurring flasbacks, intrusive memories and nightmares pretty ill, but what the hell would I know? I refused to let it ruin my life though, which is one of the areas why I talk about personality before. If you are a weak personality who wants pity, it will affect you a whole load worse than someone who blankly refuses to let it get the better of you.

Didn't make it any less painful at the time though.

Ellejmorgan

PaulF81 wrote: »

Six months when I had to wait.

I didn't say depression was a personality flaw. If you choose to let it ruin your life it will. Instead, you can try and beat the !!!!er, put it to one side and get on as best you can. Your work colleagues will admire you for it, the little victories you have in getting on with life are worth a million counselling sessions.

As for the other puerile comments, I can't stand the daily mail and I officially value immigrants well above the over entitled indigenous population who seem to think they are entitled to a free ride, despite there being no money to pay for it (apart from that being stolen from later generations through deficit spending).

IF THERE IS NO MONEY TO PAY FOR IT YOU CAN'T HAVE IT, IT REALLY IS AS SIMPLE AS THAT!

Compassion runs a lot deeper than giving cash out emotionlessly to people who quite frankly don't deserve it. I am not talking about dla here for those needing it, but the benefits they are looking to cut and the large numb who are fraudulently claiming dla. Then again, socialism has done a wonderous thing of ensuring we don't know our next door neighbour or our community, replacing it with "society" which sees money as the cure to all our ills.

How valuable is local friendship and help from someone you don't know, as opposed to a cash handout for the state?
Problem is, people have been dumbed down far too much to realise it, and the vast majority don't have the IQ To realise it either. Ho hum. One of the main reasons the country is going to pot.

Doesn't avoid the point that the money ran out a long time ago now and we are living off our grand kids credit cards to pay for our"problems". Some of you may be content with this, but I certainly am not.

The country is going to pot because of smll minded people who haven't been in a claimants shoes..

You keep going on about DLA, this isn't dependant on income milionaires can claim it..
I think you are getting confused with ESA or IB which is dependant on income..

Ellejmorgan

PaulF81 wrote: »

9% work. Do we really have that many sick people in the uk? Me thinks the lady doth protest too much.

I don't get DLA......

As I said you are getting confused between DLA & ESA/IB

PaulF81

I didn't say you did.

PaulF81

Ellejmorgan wrote: »

The country is going to pot because of smll minded people who haven't been in a claimants shoes..

You keep going on about DLA, this isn't dependant on income milionaires can claim it..
I think you are getting confused with ESA or IB which is dependant on income..

I suggest you step in the shoes of a high rate tax payer who watches their hard earned cash (usually earned through personal sacrifice, personal risk taking, hard work and time spent away from family) get flushed down the toilet and "redistributed" to idiots who quite frankly haven't earned the oxygen they breathe. Two sides to every coin.

Ellejmorgan

PaulF81 wrote: »

I suggest you step in the shoes of a high rate tax payer who watches their hard earned cash (usually earned through personal sacrifice and time spent away from family) get flushed down the toilet and "redistributed" to idiots who quite frankly haven't earned the oxygen they breathe. Two sides to every coin.

I have..

But I still was able to show sick & vulnerable people compassion and act like a human being myself

I'd love to know how one earns the oxygen to breathe, I was under the impression the air was free
Or have the tories stopped that too..

PaulF81

Quite easy to do that when you aren't paying for it. I don't have a problem paying for the genuinely sick and the vulnerable, I have issue with those who make out they are one of those categories, either due to being a weak person through choice or who just can't be bothered. Which is a big percentage of those in receipt of benefits I suggest.

Ellejmorgan

PaulF81 wrote: »

Quite easy to do that when you aren't paying for it. I don't have a problem paying for the genuinely sick and the vulnerable, I have issue with those who make out they are one of those categories, either due to being a weak person through choice or who just can't be bothered. Which is a big percentage of those in receipt of benefits I suggest.

More backtracking..

So why harp on at me about the comments you made before regarding my children..

PaulF81

Because children are a choice.mmy wife and I delayed kids,until our thirties as we

1) wanted to ensure we had a stable enough relationship to last
2) had the income to support a single child if one of us had to remain out of employment whilst meeting all other commitments.

If people were realistic, ey simply wouldn't have kids at the moment. There is too much uncertainty abound to guarantee that you can secure their upbringing.

Certainly any benefit in excess of the second child needs to be halted right awa. Why should the state fund any additional children, who are purely a lifestyle choice? Can't use contraception due to religion? That's the church's problem, not the states in my view.

Benefits need completely recalibrating, with a 10k basic tax threshold, working tax credits for 30 hours plus and further tax breaks for those working more than 36 hours per week and on less than 20k per year. Increase quality of life through taxation reduction, not handouts for working less.

Any child excluded from school or in receipt of an ASBO or other control order should be barred from benefits until they hold a tax paying job for at leat a year.

Those who have chosen not to work as a lifestyle choice can quite frankly starve, or at the bare minimum, face the shame of food and clothes vouchers.

Ellejmorgan

PaulF81 wrote: »

Because children are a choice.mmy wife and I delayed kids,until our thirties as we

1) wanted to ensure we had a stable enough relationship to last
2) had the income to support a single child if one of us had to remain out of employment whilst meeting all other commitments.

If people were realistic, ey simply wouldn't have kids at the moment. There is too much uncertainty abound to guarantee that you can secure their upbringing.

Certainly any benefit in excess of the second child needs to be halted right awa. Why should the state fund any additional children, who are purely a lifestyle choice? Can't use contraception die to religion? That's the church's problem, not the states in my view.

Benefits need completely calibrating, with a 10k basic tax threshold, working tax credits for 30 hours plus and tax breaks for those working more than 36 hours and on less than 20k per year.

Those who have chosen not to work as a lifestyle choice can quite frankly starve, or at the bare minimum, face the shame of food and clothes vouchers.

What's your point, my children don't stop me working..